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    If the asset lacks liquidity, but the banks still value the asset to allow you to leverage the equity you create, then its not a deal breaker.

    My focus to date has been to ensure my next investment, yields enough outcome to get me into the following one. I prefer paths where selling down the market share is not required, rather leveraging the equity I create.

    Does the deal yield this result? If not, there’s not much point to creating a book based equity position if you can’t use it to continue your portfolio development.

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    Hi Henry, the solution is drainage and redirecting the water flow. you probably need to determine the over land water flow levels, which you can define by contacting the relevant council and talking with their town planner. Might be lucky to find it online via the council’s http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/MasterView/masterplan/enquirer/default.aspx, which offers site specific information on flooding.

    Another option is to have a hydro engineer inspect the site and make their recommendations.

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    From my understanding; strata title is where dwellings on a community title, can be sold separately.

    If the title was subdivided, then there is no community title, only individual ones ‘freehold’, with own rates.

    A multi-unit title is where more than one dwelling shares the one title, for which there is still a community title, managed by the body corp.. I’m pretty sure that’s right. Any Town Planners out there?

    So if you are keeping what you produce and renting, as per your friend’s advice, its logical to keep the holding costs down by having more than one dwelling on the one title to minimise rates.

    The downside depends on whether you want the completed valuation of the property to reflect the two separate (strata titled) townhouses. Or whether the value of the two dwellings on a multi-unit title are going to value up to support the equity required to retain the debt.

    Remembering that two dwellings on one title are worth less than two strata titled dwellings, which can be sold separately.

    Is this making sense?

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    CBD doesn’t mean millions from my experience, there is plenty of market for all budgets. I was referring to a CBD like Brisbane, which you can afford for $400K, within 10-12kms of the CBD.

    A recent regional example was on the sunshine coast where you can buy duplex sites with an existing dwelling on them for less than $400K, I had a client secure one very recently. I think its still in its settlement period actually. The suburb offers leading growth for the area, rather than generic ripple and with design and reno it can be split into 2 dwellings.

    As mentioned in my previous post, using design to borrow to future value, allows the product to potentially create equity, but definitely add market share and extra income which contributes to your serviceability and hasten your portfolio development.. I’m sure the brokers on this forum have achieved this many times on behalf of clients.

    There are lots of strategies, sometimes it pays to afford some expertise to help you understand your potential and give the direction and clarity you need to commit and participate.

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    Cheap stock in the sticks for neutral gearing at purchase is not my preferred approach. Perhaps others on this site are better suited to address this for you?

    If it were me, I’d apply your research to an ‘inner city’ as you can get for your money land based site, with a dual income option or value add yield option to bridge the cash flow gap. I’d prioritise the location and land size over the dwelling standard, obviously ensuring the product can still be rented @ market. Employ the value add to try and manufacture equity, ensuring the ‘improvements’ at least value up – you can forecast this. Best case create equity, worst case increase my market share to attract higher returns, funded from yield. In either case, a potential path to hasten the capacity for further investment.

    Last tips, I don’t chase premiums in the market. Reno only to the majority product standard, ensuring majority demand and I use design to plan these next steps, so I can borrow to afford them, rather than funding from cash or equity.

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    Is your focus on the suburb its price point, or does that particular market offer additional opportunity?

    Market conditions change, its part of the game. If your strategy is dependent on growth alone, then the time it takes to grow is your biggest risk. If you can do something to the property physically to hasten this process then you have some control on this risk. If you are waiting for the market to do all the work, then you are exposing yourself to the ‘time in the market’ risk most ‘buy/ hold and wait’ investors experience.

    Rather than concern yourself with picking the perfect suburb, perhaps focus on your criteria, to ensure the property product is likely to achieve the outcome you desire. If you know what you want from property, you have a better chance of picking a product that is likely to contribute to this outcome. Remember it will take more than one property to retire you (if this is your outcome), so this next investment needs to offer a path to more investment.

    Consider how its going to achieve this result, whether you can keep it or have to sell to continue accumulating, and what time you will sacrifice making it so.

    As you become more experienced, you will compare only the time it takes to achieve an outcome, not whether or not it will happen. Given enough time, just about any investment will offer some return…

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    Interesting comments on this one Kurtuk,

    Really depends on the purpose of the purchase. Assuming its for investment:

    I would go for market share, $700K would give you access to significant options in Brisbane. Including value add opportunity. I would buy one site with zoning for multiple dwellings, this way you purchase an asset with in built value add to exploit. Rather than having to buy more sites to build up your market share.

    There are lots of ways to develop a site. Brisbane, from my experience, offers flexible options including keeping the existing dwelling for holding income. Then building additional dwellings on the same lot, yields a pretty sustainable path. Ensuring holding income and a staged approach to help manage risk.

    Done correctly you use the future value of the new product to afford the debt, increasing your market share from $700K to $1.8M or more, without burning more of your own equity. This depends on the site and its location. $700K in Brisbane should get you within 8Kms of the CBD – assuming this is your driver. Importantly also, you can hold the completed product (market share) as the income it derives will fund the holding costs, as per the plan..

    Alternative strategies would have you buy and hold, and wait for market help for equity, rather than manufacturing it. Which can burn a lot of time in market, as you may have already experienced?

    Development isnt rocket science, but it is important to work with a proven approach so you can benchmark your outcomes and qualify market feedback to ensure you maintain your margins to achieve your result.

    Have you considered development to continue the growth of your portfolio?

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    Great question achimy! Agenda free support can be hard to find where businesses are dependent on the money they make from the products/ services they sell. The trick is to:

    – Have a specific outcome in mind. What do you want from property? Just participating, isn’t really a strategy. This way you can be have a selection criteria to help qualify the service provider.
    – Shop around, buying property is a serious business, its worth making the time to meet with different providers to get a feel for their point of difference. Take your partner with you, if you are going to be making joint decisions, you will both need to feel comfortable the with support at hand.
    – Qualify them by their experience. There is little point taking advice from someone who hasn’t done it before, or proven their own success in investment.
    – Qualify the nature of their success. Building a portfolio of assets which yield income and equity to retire on, is much harder than renoing a property once and making $50K.
    – Assuming you’ve found someone with proven investment success, make sure they are qualified to give you advice. You’ll probably find lots of ‘experts’ aren’t actually licensed to give you personal advice. Why is this important? Well, at least you know there is some regulation of the advice they provide, which means if they act unprofessionally or provide advice which is not in your best interest, there are serious consequences. Some assurance they will do the right thing..
    – Ask for client references. Can you speak to a client who has used their service and achieved an outcome in line with their plan? This is important, as it helps you recognise the provider has understood the client’s needs and objectives before recommending an appropriate course of action.

    Importantly, the responsibility of sourcing the appropriate provider is yours. Given you have done all your reading, work out what it is you want from property and then shop around to find someone who has the right skills to help you achieve it. If you give this process the effort it requires, I’m sure you will enjoy the same benefits other do from ‘building the right team’.

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    Consider also, you are one of many investors being sold into the same product, right next to the other 100 dwellings in the development. This means widespread rental properties; one after the other. This will segment the demand for this type of product as you will loose the ‘owner occupier’ driver for capital growth.

    Second, you’re in a mortgage belt. All the surrounding properties are likely to have 100%+ debt on them, bringing interest rate risk into the equation. Obviously the current interest market is very low, but it wont last forever. In future when they increase rates, there is potential for the majority of owners to feel increasing financial pressure all at the same time. Potentially leading to broad discounting across the area. Meaning the values can drop quickly if the market competes to sell.

    hopefully this making sense, its more easily addressed in conversation, rather than via these posts.

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    From my experience old property doesn’t have to translate to higher maintenance costs. In QLD we have QLDers (postwar weatherboard), if you apply the right buying processes, ensuring the dwelling is sound then holding costs can be minimal.

    This way you can prioritise the location, radius to CBD, rather than paying so much for the dwelling out in the sticks.

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    Off the plan property sold through an intermediary, suggests commissions. Also just make sure these ‘investment advisers’ actually have a Australian financial services license. As without it, they are not allowed to give you personal strategic direction on anything, including property product.

    I’m with PHP & Richard, older property in established markets, with value add is the most strategic path as a starting point. Stay away from attached dwellings due to the additional holding costs, which will suck up your cash flow. Also don’t count tax returns as cash flow either, as depreciation benefits don’t last forever, nor will the returns be particularly tangible given your current wage, making the property expensive to hold.

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    I think if you have the capacity to invest, you should be investing, rather than waiting for the most opportune time to buy.

    Perhaps ensuring there is a value add option to exploit in your asset when the market rewards ‘value add’ is a strategic solution. Achieving the ‘time in’ requirement, but also taking advantage of the ‘timing’ opportunity in the market when it presents.

    Investing also has to be within your tolerance to risk. In this case Tjay would prefer to use savings and afford the potential opportunity cost, rather than add the inherent risk of using a credit card to bridge his capital gap. Much prefer to see him set his own expectations, than add external ones this early in his investing career.

    I’m not suggesting risk doesn’t reward, but managing and meeting expectations is critical for a rewarding investment experience. Especially this early in the game!

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    GC unit market has had over supply issues for years, and although some prospectors are using the coming Commonwealth Games as a potential driver, its all pretty short term. Is this purchase for your own home or for investment purposes?

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    Thanks for the post. I agree with PHP. A good investment should definitely be about growth and yield, with tax saving as a potential byproduct of participating rather than the reason to do it.

    Negative gearing (when your income is less than expenses) is one way to reduce taxable income, along with depreciation benefits (the physical building & fittings get older they depreciate in value) to add to the deductions.

    A lot of property marketers sell new property to meet this brief, and quite often translates to being either houses located out in the sticks, or inner city apartments. Either means the growth prospects or yield outcomes are loooong term. Generic ‘buy and hold’ for tax returns as a strategy, is a pretty old school approach to market…

    Earning good money as a day job, along with the stress involved, suggests he would look to make the most of this potential – sooner rather than later. Creating a plan with a defined outcome and time frame might be a better initial move, as this would spell out the most suitable investment for his goals, rather than his tax return.

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    Hi Glen, great to see some young guns raring to go! Any traction before kids will make a big difference long term!

    Flipping requires continuous effort, its like adding another day job to your existing ones. It can pay well when the market is right and rewards renos, but difficult to do year in year out profitably. If you are handy, there are other ways to channel this skill set.

    Splitters are also hard to make money on if flipping, they can offer capital outcomes given enough time in market. But market timing would need to be just right (close to peak) to turn over and make a margin in the short term. Mostly due to the council/ infrastructure costs incurred. As well as entry & exit fees.

    Small lot development might sound like the deep end, but not if you stage it. Its a longer time commitment, but will allow you to accumulate significant market share within the next few years. If done right the strategy has holding income throughout, and realizes enough equity to hold and facilitate continued accumulation. Not to mention the cash flow to cover costs and offer ongoing working capital.

    I’ve done/ participated in (I think) most strategies available to an individual investor, concentrating nowadays on small development projects. if I could turn back time, I would’ve done this from the start and held everything I built and accumulated.

    Food for thought…

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    One difference is the offer process. If you put an offer in and its accepted, you are in contract and its handled by the RE Agent. There’s no exchange of contracts like in NSW. so ensure you have your contract terms in place when you make an offer.

    LMR sites (low/ medium residential development) are in high demand in Brisbane (if this is the market you are considering?), you will likely need a buyers agent (BA) to access a site. A lot of transactions are occurring off market. Having lengthy due diligence terms in the settlement period is not likely to work either. So having a team to quickly qualify the site, means your settlement terms are simple, giving you a much better chance to secure a site.

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    Agree with your list Mark, I’ve always prioritised holding what I create.

    A couple of my rules:
    Work to a time frame: Property investment doesn’t have to be a life endeavor. If you actually have a plan for how you are going to build your portfolio, you can channel your effort and make it happen within a time frame that’s tangible.

    Have an outcome in mind: if you know what you want from property; growth, income, both. Different property offers different outcomes, particularly if you are working to a time frame. I see a lot of investors expecting the market to deliver a result. This can lead to long wait. Better to be proactive, and have some control on time, than wait for market to do all the work!

    Have the right ownership structure: when building a portfolio, having assets in your own name versus trusts, have pros & cons, the main message though is to think about the scenario in 10 years from now when you’re generating $100K passive from your portfolio. You wont want this all in your own name. Better to have some flexibility to distribute…

    This list could go on, but that’s my two cents for now.

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    I think you already know the right move Scottyboy,

    For your first investment I would opt for something with a land component, with low holding costs, close to neutral as possible. Preferably with a value add option to employ when you’re ready to engage it. Brisbane is more likely to offer this option within your price point as the yield is much higher than Melb & Syd.

    I can imagine the excitement of a flash new car, but long term it will definitely be worth less, where as a property has good prospects for growing in value.

    In five years time, you’ll be pretty pleased with yourself for making the right decision, and your bank balance will be thanking you too!

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    Hi, thanks for the post.

    I’m a big believer in having a strategy in property. Value add can be a purposeful path, particularly as waiting for the market to do all the work, can stretch out your time horison.

    I started with accumulation using equity and Lines of Credit like a lot of investors about 8 years ago. I found this limiting as it sucks up your cash flow and the banks eventually stop lending…

    Having learnt these lessons, I sold down and dived back in, with a cash flow requirement in my investment criteria. I started by converting single housing into dual living, which meant neutral to positive outcomes, then into shared living property for positive cash flow. Although these options improved cash flow significantly, the cost to reno didn’t always value add because at the time the market wasn’t paying a premium for renos. They only went up in line with the money I put into them, with the yield as the main result.

    So even though my strategy evolved to include income, it was still subject to market to create equity for reinvestment. I guess ‘luckily’ for me I was in Darwin at the time and the market did eventually offer enough upside for next steps.

    In an attempt to create equity and cash flow at the same time, I moved to Brisbane to access low/ medium density zoned property at an affordable price to start doing small lot developments, which I’m still doing (and help others to do too). The idea is to manufacture equity, but at price that the rent achieved is in surplus of holding costs to create equity and passive income. I’ve done 3 sites already and current working my 4th through DA atm.

    The strategy is defined, which means I dont need to worry too much about all the other options in the market while the there is still money in it. Which means I’m head down and channeling my effort working one project into the next. This approach has yielded my best success in property, allowing me to hold what I create and still have enough to reinvest into another site. using the income my portfolio generates to cover cost and provide working capital. Its getting to a point I could live off it if I wanted to, which is great peace of mind – financially speaking at least.

    Property is a great market, but there is no easy money. My experience has helped me develop a formula to apply, stick to and repeat. You can learn this for yourself over time or pay others to spell it out for you.

    In any case value add is the right option in my opinion, particularly if you want some control on outcome..

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    Hi Wiwin,

    lots of info here about how to buy, who can help, not much around what is right for you and whether it will help realise your outcome. Mostly because this different for everyone. Expectations are pretty important, as your first step into property needs to be a positive one in order for you to stick at it and build your portfolio.

    What do you expect property to do for you? Are looking to build a base to yield income, or turning over stock for short term gains, there are lots of paths yielding varying returns.

    Any approach to market needs to be formulated. Concentrate on the outcome, and work backwards to the appropriate product to achieve this result.

    Professional support can provide this clarity, help define the required team, and give you the direction you need to channel your effort.

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