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As long as your handle name doesnt represent your employment status i cant see an issue as long as serviceability is evident.
I am not sure i would do it as an owner builder loan and would suggest subject to equity you merely do it as a "cash out" deal and control the cash flow yourself.
Couple of lenders spring to mind that would allow such a purpose.
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Hi Intrigue
Like Terry i dont want to spoil the party but realistically if you could a 50% lvr on a specialised security such as that you would be doing well. I am assuming that you have no equity left in your PPOR.
You cash funds in the offset account probably wont go close to even covering your legal costs, stamp duty etc even if they did offer you 100% vendor finance.
Another consideration is of course how do you refinance the deal once the Vendor Finance loan comes to an end as i am sure it will be for a fairly limited timeframe i.e 2-5 years.
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Hi Paulie
We do a fair bit of SMSF lending and set up's and to be honest i agree with you i think you will need more than 60 days for Settlement.
Realistically it could take a potential lender 21-28 days for finance and then documentation about the same again.
Costs and documentation requirements are obviously a little more in depth than they would be for a standard residential SMSF application so you need to allow for this.Also remember once the funds have been rolled over (and i think 21 days over Easter is possibly bullish depending on the retail fund they are coming from) you will need to establish the Bare Trust / Security Custodian so that the property Contract can reflect the correct purchasing name.
You are unable to go to Contract until this is set up and the timing is not ideal.
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lila
Before you looking for the property i would personally get the sub loan or refinance going as often this can be the bit of the equasion
that slows down the process.We always try and do this part for clients upfront so they have the structure set up correctly and funds available so when they find somewhere there is no delay.
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Lila
The reason being is that the interest on the investment loan is Tax deductible irrespective of the security which it is secured against so you want to try and maximum your deductible debt and minimise your non deductible debt.
Even if your PPOR loan repaid you would probably be better off taking interest only with 100% offset account on the subloan secured against your PPOR and interest only on the standalone loan secured against the IP itself.
I would always try and go for 80% on the IP subject to your available equity or investing goals.
Many clients wish to maximise their borrowings and therefore happy to take the loan upto 90% and use less of their PPOR equity so they can buy again.
We will also suggest once the IP has increased in value you get it revalued and then redraw back upto 80 / 90% of the increased valuation and pay down the sub loan secured against your PPOR.
These funds can then be re-used for the next Investment property or just left to sit there.
There are some excellent base rate investment loans out there at the moment which are ideal for investors.
Hope this makes sense.
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Hi Annie
Yes i fully understand.
I have dozens of IT clients in the same boat and a lot that have come over from the UK and have only been contracting for 12 months or so. As i say i dont think it is an issue it is just not accepted by a lot of lenders.
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Annie, even at a 90% lvr some lenders / mortgage insurers will have a problem with less than 2 years contracting.
Easy answer is to flick Jamie an email when you are ready to go and get him to sort it out for you.
Why not get a professional on the job.
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To keep the funds fluid.
Once you pay down the loan you can redraw the funds and then claim a deduction on the interest.
If you decide in the future to buy your own PPOR you would want to minimise the non deductible debt and maximise the deductible debt. The net interest savings with an offset account is the same but it gives you choice.
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The boys have stolen my thunder.
With a decent amount of equity in the property it is also important you structure the loan correctly to ensure going forward is not happered with cross collateralised loans.
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Hate to disagree but i dont use Wesuck for SMSF loans as i dont find them anywhere near as competitive as other lenders in that sphere.
As Jack mentioned the floods have come and gone. I think basing an investing decision around a once in 30 year event is unwise.
Brisbane went under last year also and we just sat and waited and then filled out boots with giveaway deals which are now worth considerably more.Cheers
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Hi Darren
Small Development funding has some many variables it is not a matter of 1 loan fits all and will depend on so many factors it is not funny. Had to believe but a lot of lenders will not allow for 2 properties on the same Title so unless you can get the land subdivided prior to construction this will eliminate some choice.
Buying thru a Trust with Corporate Trustee will make no difference as would be an expected structure however may add a little to some of the costs as some lenders charge for perusing the Trust Deed. Small bickies if the rest of the deal is correct.
Make sure you dont use your PPOR redraw for investment purposes as you will contaminate the interest deductions and not be able to claim such if it is not set up correctly.
Also many lenders will not factor in potential rent on the new properties until such time as they have been completed so that is something you need to bear in mind if serviceability is tight.
As i say we do a fair amount of this sort of funding and without a lot more hard data an answer is impossible.
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Jamie my sentiments exactly.
Remind me to make a note of the Bank managers name and number.
Suprised he didnt also suggest that he had a mate with a printing press if you wanted some nice new looking payslips and group certificate printed up. Although saying that perhaps he will come and visit when you are inside for mortgage fraud.
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Definately agree Aaron.
If the level of enquiry from clients saying "my current lender has just declined my loan, can you help" is anything to go by it is only going to get worse and worse.
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Kris i dont think Derek was disputing the fact that you can mortgage your own PPOR what i believe he was commenting on was that you would have limited serviceability in your position.
Remember where the loan is solely relaint on rental income lenders are down reducing considerably the amount of rent they will use in their serviceability calculation.
I havent seen this since the mid 90's when i first arrive in Oz but there are a lot of things changing in the finance world daily at the moment so nothing is now suprising me.
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lawsjs
I think you misread my post.
What i said was we do these loans as "second homes" loans and not investment loans.
We only deal with 3 US Lenders who do investment loans to Foreign Nationals.
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Agree Jamie but you never now the 3rd post might actually be a contribution to the forum community rather than a plug for business.
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Totally agree that the way to go would Interest only with 100% offset account but unfortunately you wont be able to fix the rate of interest on the loan and still utilise the offset account (odd lender exception).
You may want to therefore look at splitting the loan between a fixed rate and variable and link the offset account to the variable portion of the loan.
This way you can get the best of both worlds.
In regards to whether you can borrow funds for the renvoation this will depend on whether the work is being undertaken by a licensed builder and if so whether the lender valuer agrees that the valuation will increase accordingly.
Either way the Bank will want to control the funds payable to the Builder.Remember even at a 95% lvr + LMI the capitalised LMI will be limited to 2% of the purchase price and you will have to come up with the balance. In addition to your own legal costs you will still have the mortgage registration and transfer.
Might want to double check how much you will need to make sure you have this up your sleeve.
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Hi Chris
Firstly welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time with us.
I wont start by giving you a lecture on why i wouldnt buy with a friend as i am sure you have heard all of the stories before.
So many of these arrangements have ended in tragedy and the parties are no longer friends.On a more upbeat comment if you go into the arrangement with your eyes open and the loan structure is set up correctly Yes they can work.
Unfortunately there are so many lending pitfalls you need to be aware of so suggest you get some Professional advice here for that.
In the main lenders will want to consider both of your incomes and liabilities and whilst this may not appear an issue if one of the parties decides to purchase again separately this can cause serviceability issues unless you use the right lender.Definately get some good Accounting advice as i wouldnt be buying in Partnership but would use a Trust structure.
Again what type of Trust and the Trustees will need individual consideration.Cheers
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Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Agree with Terry.
There are some lenders i can think off who wouldnt have an issue (we have done similar for 101 other forum clients) and others who would run a mile.
Correct lender choice is parramount.
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As Paul i wouldnt be without them.
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