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  • Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi jhk31

    My wife and I started our Vendor Finance residential real estate business in 2003.  Happily for us, I was able to give up my job early in 2009 and we are now both enjoying working in our Vendor Finance business full time.

    We'd suggest the main pitfall is believing that it's some form of get rich quick scheme.  Happily it's becoming more regulated by the new National Credit Code and this is helping to improve its image.

    A few web resources that may help in your search for information about vendor finance in residential real estate are:
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
    http://www.jvpropertypartners.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=75
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/
    http://www.vendorfinance.asn.au/   The Vendor Finance Association of Australia

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Max

    In your situation I'd probably go with an Interest Only loan for your first IP.  However, I suggest you talk with Richard and/or Terry in the Finance sub forum about this topic. While I used to be a mortgage broker, that was a long time ago and these guys are right up with all the latest.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi ducata

    We have a strategy we use for this type of situation, we call "negative2positive".  It involves selling the property with vendor (seller) finance to an owner occupier.  We have always found that, if you make a property easy to buy, you also make it easy to sell.

    Many buyers will pay a premium price for their PPOR if they are unable to get a traditional home loan and a property is offered to them with vendor (seller) financing.

    We normally find this type of transaction generates cash flow at three points, i.e. the deposit the new buyers pay, the positive monthly cash flow and the "back end" profit when the new buyers refinance into a traditional home loan.
     
    Of course, you are selling the property, so this strategy only works if selling the property is something that fits into your plans.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Ryan

    We're pretty much as Terry says:
    1.  We only sell to owner occupiers.
    2.  We never sell a property with no "hurt money" from the buyer.  Even if the buyer is eligible for the FHOG and is going to to use that as part deposit, we still insist on some deposit from the buyer.  Without any of their real money in the transaction, in our opinion, it's just too easy for them to walk away.  When people have some of their own money in the transaction, they'll fight a lot harder to make things work.
    3.  The advice we've received from our solicitor is that, due to Consumer Credit Code considerations, a maximum safe upper limit should be no more than approx 2.5% above the "big 4's" standard variable rate.
    4.  We structure our vendor finance (instalment contract) sales to positively encourage our buyers to refinance with a traditional lender as soon as they can.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Daniel

    I think the point here is in your original question, i.e. "after settlement".  If they wanted to rent the property prior to settlement then your solicitor would use a "licence to occupy" (LTO) and in NSW and Vic too I believe, a LTO is not covered by the Residential Tenancy Act.

    However, because the Vendor currently occupies the property, there's no reason to go for a LTO.  As mentioned above, just get your solicitor to write up a Special Condition and that should satisfy the Vendor that they're going to get their requested lease after settlement.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Max

    Buying an Apartment or Unit seems like a pretty good place to start.  If you happen to be in a major metropolitan area, I suggest you buy apartments or units as close to the CBD as you can afford.  Their capital growth seems to be at it's best, the closer they are to the CBD.  Probably the same free standing property too but apartments tend to "drop off" more quickly than houses, the further you move out from the CBD.

    I believe that our long term wealth lies in the equity we have in property.  Sure there are a lot of other more creative strategies but, for starters, a buy an hold, probably negatively geared, is a good way to go.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Jaffasoft

    Just get your solicitor to put it in the Special Conditions area, i.e. the extra clauses added to the standard Contract of Sale.  Here you can nominate just about anything you like.  Just have it written up something like; "The Vendor agrees to enter into a xx month residential tenancy of the property, at $xxx per week, prior to completion of the Contract".

    Your solicitor will be able to word it correctly.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Gavin

    I hope Duckster's suggestions work as I too can't find any contact details for the original software makers.  I'm sure you'd like to stay with what you're comfortable with but, in case that's not possible, LoanAlert has worked really well for us over the years.  It's available at;  http://www.loanalert.com.au  I don't have any association with them.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Basman

    Dan42 is right.  However, just for her information, it's worth knowing that the Family Law Court has been very successful in unraveling trusts that have had assets placed in them after a couple started cohabiting.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi

    Some pest inspectors now have access to thermal imaging technology, to catch white ants in real time.  They still do the other forms of inspection, so we're working on the basis that it's another tool in the inspector's tool kit, so why not use it.

    We find there are two general types of real estate agents.  They are:
    1.  The one that tells you everything, including what the vendor will finally accept.  They just love to talk.
    2.  The one that presents the property and in answer to a question regarding what the vendor will take, let's you know that they're expecting the asking price.  They also give you very little of the vendor's "story".

    We would use the second type if we were to ever sell a property via a real estate agency.  The first type are worth gold to a purchaser and we make a point of getting to know them and using their services whenever we can.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi

    We recently got a company/trust structure for $1,500 via our accountant.

    If you settle on a property in, say, your name and then transfer it into a trust, then yes new stamp duty will be incurred and associated legal costs.

    As always, check with your lawyer.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Maccacha

    I know a Financial Planner who'll be happy to talk property with you:
    Richard Taylor, Residential & Commercial Finance Broker, Ph: 07 3720 1888

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Ben

    Here are a few ideas:
    ACCOUNTANT:  Bruce Whiting, Business Artisans P/L, Ph: 02 9521 6942
    LAWYER:  Tony Cordato, Cordato Partners, Ph: 02 8297 5600
    BROKER & FINANCIAL PLANNER:   Richard Taylor, Residential & Commercial Finance Broker, Ph: 07 3720 1888
    BROKER:  Terry W and the other great brokers you'll find in the Finance (& other) sub forums on this site.

    Also, search around for the best Building and Pest inspection services you can find.  There is new technology available in the pest inspection business and we find it useful.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi All

    We too found the registration process quite straightforward.

    I also agree with Andrew's comment that the licence may be more difficult to get in the future, e.g. there is already a requirement that after 30 June 2014, all ACL representatives will have to have a minimum of a Cert 4 in Finance.

    So, if your company is the licence holder and you're a representative ……….. ;-)

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Dr Spock

    My wife and I started out in Vendor Finance in 2003 and it's been a great business for us.  So much so that we both spend all our time building the business these days.

    We did have one advantage though and that was we started off with some equity in our house that we were able to use to buy our first property, that we subsequently on sold with a vendor finance Instalment Contract.

    If you're currently unable to get a loan you're more than likely going to have to use a vendor finance (VF) strategy called a Lease/Option.  About the best "getting started" manual for this technique is Rick Ottan's "Massive Passive Pack".  I've seen one or two of them available, second hand, around the forums these last few weeks, so you may be able to pick up a bargin.

    Starting off on the Lease/Option route is harder than the way we started.  However we've seen numerous people start off in the same position as you, who now work their VF businesses full time.  Like all things, your success is directly correlated to your ability to remain focused and stick with it.  Good luck.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Ryan

    That sounds about right to me, with the proviso that they also don't enter the "business" in the future.  It's early days with this new legisaltion so I'd definitely run all this past a solicitor familiar with the new legislation.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi dcn08

    I'm with Richard and Terry, i.e. they work very well here.  Just in case you're new to the idea, Lease/Options are one of the two most popular vendor finance strategies in Australia.  The other being Instalment Contracts (sometimes called Wraps).

    Three quick spots to read up on these are:
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/

    I hope that helps.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi lucky4s

    I can think of two strategies right now that have the potential to help.

    1.  Sell traditionally.  However because of your current financial position,  It will need to be a quick sale and you should possibly plan on a lower sale price than you might otherwise get (maybe the $260K area).  This will give you something just over $100K when complete.

    If, at any time, you look like defaulting on the loan, remember you have the "hardship" provisions of the UCCC that may give you a maximum of two months breathing space.  Hardship provisions don't happen automatically.  You have to apply to your lender to have these provisions put in place.

    2.  Sell the property with vendor finance for $290K.  You can usually ask a premium price if you allow people to buy the property with a small deposit and instalments over time.  Let's assume you sell for $290K, over 30 years, at 7% and the new buyer gives you $15K deposit (they can use the FHOG as part of this deposit, if they qualify).  The new buyers weekly payment to you would be $422.21.

    You owe the bank $132K.  Let's say you ask the bank to re-amortise your loan over the remaining term and let's guess that remaining term is 28 years and your interest rate is 7%.  Your payment to the bank would be $897.08 per month, or $207.02 per week.

    $422.21 from the new buyer and $207.02 to the bank and, in our experience, there just aren't enough vendor finance properties available to meet the demand, so it should sell quite quickly.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Walter

    Tony Cordato – 02 8297 5600

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Ryan

    As Terry says, anybody supplying credit to an individual (natual person) has to abide by the new NCC, after 1 July 2010.

    There is an interesting area of the of the Regulatory Guides where you will see that the registration requirement applies to those who "carry on the business of providing credit".  As stated in the Regulatory Guides, a one-off credit provider does not need to be licensed, nor do they need to register.

    It will be interesting to see what number of transactions will be construed as "carrying on the business of …..".  From one source I've heard the number 5 mentioned and from another 3.  It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

    Cheers,  Paul

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