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  • mattnz
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    Yes, but apparently tickets are likely to be quite limited if you don't already have one as part of an earlier package deal. It will be in Melbourne.

    mattnz
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    Great info thanks Maddie.

    Which valuer is best and which banks have them on their panel?

    mattnz
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    Your negotiations will be driven by the various tender responses you receive for your build from each builder, not by what the posters at Somersoft forum have estimated.

    They should be able to provide you with a breakdown of the cost drivers and you can reference the cost base of each component of all of the builder's offers to negotiate the best deal.

    For example I am currently negotiating with builders for townhouse construction. One of the better priced builders had a high price for concrete compared with the other quotes, so I got him to go back and find a better deal for concrete. Seeing a breakdown of the cost components also allows you to understand whether paying $x for security screens or sprinkler system or stone bench tops adds enough value to include it in the final build.

    Note that the objective in negotiations isn't to screw the builder, it is to work with them to find the lowest cost possible to maximise your sale value.

    mattnz
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    Christian, if you supply fixtures and fittings, would the builder normally place their own margin on these items anyway?

    For example PC sums for tiles, carpets etc where the head contractor is also the project manager.

    Would you normally deliver them to site, or expect the builder to collect them when required at the appropriate build stage?

    mattnz
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    Christian, your earlier post was spot on, it aligns exactly with my post here https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/value-adding/4343689 but explains it better.

    BTW I am currently doing 3 bed, 3 bath, single garage townhouses which are 125 sqm, in a location where the builld costs $1,800-$2,000 per sqm turnkey. 200 sqm may not be the optimal size, even if you can fit them on the block. For me it makes the difference of a 40% profit on costs at 125 sqm, whereas probably no profit at 200 sqm.

    Note also that profit isn’t the only factor. For me with a limited capital base, I reviewed and discounted some larger build configurations that may have had a higher profit margin, but had a prohibitive cost base.

    For argument’s sake let’s say your 200 sqm townhouse costs $300,000 and at 125 sqm it would cost $187,500. You may get an extra $120k in sales value for the larger build, so in theory you get an extra $7,500 profit per townhouse, but you have a much higher build cost and it will be much harder to fund.

    I am trying to work on the theory that for every extra $0.65 I spend, I need to be getting back $1 more in sales value. This is in line with the lending requirements of the banks which will fund a maximum of 65% of the final realiseable value (net of gst). By following this simple formula, I ensure that I can still fund the build with a limited capital base. If alternatively you are funding based on 20% of the costs, it becomes even more important to minimise them where ever possible.

    Cheers,
    Matt

    mattnz
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    Need to keep them long enough to avoid income tax and gst. I have plenty of exposure to the Gladstone market though… 14 townhouses currently planned.

    mattnz
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    Would be a pretty short list:
    Moranbah
    Dysart
    Blackwater
    Newman
    Port Hedland
    South Hedland
    Karratha

    All make the list comfortably at 10%+ yields and near 0% vacancy rates. Go the mining boom :)

    mattnz
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    Sounds realistic.

    I am building two townhouses on the back of an existing house in Gladstone. Total build cost around $600k, each will rent for $1,000 per week in the current market, for around 16% yield plus depreciation benefits of a new build :)

    mattnz
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    Some do. There are tax advantages in building townhouses, selling some and keeping some.

    For example if you build 4 townhouses for $1 million including land cost and can sell 3 of them for $1 million, you can retain the 4th one without having made a profit under ATO rules. You can then leverage off that asset by borrowing against it, to get your equity out tax free and use the rental income to service the loan.

    mattnz
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    No, but it will include carpets, tiles, landscaping, fencing, aircon, oven, dishwasher, antenna, driveway etc.

    Excludes land, council fees, architect.

    mattnz
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    I have built in Melbourne before. You can do turnkey project homes for $1000/sqm, but 2 storey off the plan is $1500+ for everything.

    mattnz
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    Where do you plan to develop?

    Check out this site for estimated build costs
    http://mortgagehouse.com.au/construction/construction-costs-per-square-metre.aspx

    It advises 3br, 2 level brick veneer townhouse, including allowance for common property, medium finish $1,480/sqm

    mattnz
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    60%?? Is that now their standard?

    Is there a table that someone could point me to of all the bank loan criteria, or is it a closely guarded secret?

    mattnz
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    I should also add that the comments at the bottom of the page are extremely amusing and clearly reflect the level of understanding of the readers.

    “First of all progressively inhibit or totally remove the ability to negative gear property investments beyond the primary residence of the owner. Why should every other taxpayer be subsidising some big-time investor to own 35 houses in Dysart, when at the very least a more desirable outcome should exist to favour 35 owner-occupiers whether they be in Dysart or Timbuktoo….”

    Yes those negatively geared 14%+ yield houses in Dysart must be costing the taxpayer a fortune in taxes every year… lol!!

    mattnz
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    Moranbah is a market where there is an extreme shortage of housing. How does rent capping encourage the desparately needed investment in housing?? Who would build a negatively geared house that could never achieve market rent?

    Talking to people in the know in major mining companies there, the key issue is how slow the government agencies are to approve more accommodation that is so desperately required.

    mattnz
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    That build cost sounds awfully low, if you are doing 2 or 3 storey builds. Allow $1500/sqm+

    mattnz
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    I have over $1 million profits lined up on the 3 deals. That was all the motivation i needed. I am doing all 3 concurrently in the same market. I got jv partners onboard to assist with financing them. I actually met the jv partners for the 3rd development on the course with troy harris. I am doing huge hours to do the developments, but the key is getting a pipeline of projects underway, then eventually leave the day job to do developing fulltime.

    How much do you have to invest?

    mattnz
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    I already had 2 development sites and now have a third. Not investing in melbourne or sydney though, the returns aren’t high enough.

    mattnz
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    Hi elmodogg,

    Also look into Troy Harris from Rookie Developer. He develops in North Melbourne and runs a bus tour of his development sites, as well as a 1 year mentoring programme.

    I’ve done the bus tour and it is worthwhile.

    mattnz
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    Actually an article today advises that the better growth was in Gladstone.

    http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/story/2012/02/22/leading-the-price-rise-pack-property/

    Gladstone +$60,000
    Calliope +$41,000

    I see it as similar to Port Hedland vs South Hedland. The best growth occurred at the port. Gladstone will be the same.

    Travelling to Calliope, it is nothing special. If you want to be out of town, Boyne / Tannum is lovely, water views and a great beach. Good shopping and a nice area. Historically the premium suburbs.

    But if you want capital gains, Gladstone itself is where the corporate tenants are going to be living, which drives rental gains and house price growth.

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