PropertyInvesting.com | Jay Sizzle | Activity https://www.propertyinvesting.com/members/jay-sizzle/activity/ Activity feed for Jay Sizzle. Fri, 17 Apr 2026 15:12:08 +0000 https://buddypress.org/?v=2.8.1 en-US 30 hourly 2 2c7f95dc8cd8b4380cf20c16b4b49b32 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691446 Thu, 30 May 2013 23:57:51 +0000 The vendor himself – rather than the agent?

Is that something that is good practice? I know my lawyer would be horrified!

]]> bde8c4e515bb64e235ed7875c4e75941 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691444 Thu, 30 May 2013 23:44:33 +0000 Re. the vendor's financial (possible) constraints:

I know that he owns at least two properties, has a senior role in a mutilnational company, owns a very nice car and may possibly own a business.

Can I fairly assume that all claims of 'crying poor' should be ignored? – OR – due to the divorce, there may be certain financial thresholds that he…[Read more]

]]> a700042e2b2b9398365a1ab760408fa0 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691443 Thu, 30 May 2013 22:44:49 +0000 Great advice guys, thank you – ESP. Tamara. I'll have a think, and speak with the agent at some point to try to ascertain where the vendors head is at.

thank you.

]]> 295032eccf2a3dab477a26eabd02ccad Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691440 Thu, 30 May 2013 12:43:14 +0000 Scott No Mates wrote:
 (and use this as the max that the bank will approve)

I'm  sorry, I don't quite follow exactly what you are getting at – can you please clarify?

Great points everybody. Might just have to lay my cards on the table, hope that the vendor sees logic, and be prepared to walk away if he doesn't.

]]> 71261572514be20b97d33edf4b01a1b4 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum As for how I found out about https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691437 Thu, 30 May 2013 08:32:24 +0000 As for how I found out about the divorce, the agent let it slip while my valuer was doing his inspection.

The agent seems to think that the valuer was from the bank, when in fact he was an independent valuer. Not sure if that misperception has any significance? Either way, the agent has asked me for what the figure the valuer gave us on several…[Read more]

]]> cbf86a78d74b375f7497c64e6154bcbd Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691434 Thu, 30 May 2013 05:19:39 +0000 I mean, surely the agent realises the vendor is being wildy unrealistic, right? 

]]> ac19c3f95b2b8a7a1f40248edb262f3b Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691433 Thu, 30 May 2013 05:08:44 +0000 Thanks for the quick responses – really appreciated. :) I agree – I think we will walk, and say 'get in touch' if the vendor changes mind.

re. Vendors motivation, I know the vendor is divorced, and has previously had the property on the market at a higher price again. 

In any case, the upper limit of our valuers recommendation is well short of the…[Read more]

]]> 9ee577ebf15feb7ce0e057513ab99bf0 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Negotiation Q: vendor didn't come back with a counter offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409446-negotiation-q-vendor-didnt-come-back-with-a-counter-offer/#post-4691432 Thu, 30 May 2013 05:07:32 +0000 Thanks for the quick responses – really appreciated. :) I agree – I think we will walk, and say 'get in touch' if the vendor changes mind.

re. Vendors motivation, I know the vendor is divorced, and has previously had the property on the market at a higher price again. 

In any case, the upper limit of our valuers recommendation is well short of the…[Read more]

]]> b60673faa42601f6f241d18ae857df09 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Harm in making an offer via email BEFORE an official offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409439-harm-in-making-an-offer-via-email-before-an-official-offer/#post-4691373 Wed, 29 May 2013 01:37:22 +0000 Thanks – just writhing email now.

should I include the length of settlement in the offer at this point?

]]> 616ea312990c411c7051248599d15ba8 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Harm in making an offer via email BEFORE an official offer? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409439-harm-in-making-an-offer-via-email-before-an-official-offer/#post-4691371 Wed, 29 May 2013 01:29:47 +0000 Anyone?!

 Kinda want to get back to the agent today, but don't want to compromise our negotiations.

]]> 67dd8f0c0ca709103eb7fc2f852a8462 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Soil test for sloping block in hills? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409433-soil-test-for-sloping-block-in-hills/#post-4691346 Tue, 28 May 2013 00:35:49 +0000 I've been on the phone a fair bit this morning, and spoke with a Geotechnical Engineer that said what we are probably needing is a 'Slope Stability Test' – rather than a soil test (which is more for contamination than stability)

]]> 344d1c40135814a5d3e4a1c16e230a34 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Soil test for sloping block in hills? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409433-soil-test-for-sloping-block-in-hills/#post-4691345 Mon, 27 May 2013 23:34:31 +0000 Also, is there any way to check that the large trees that are on the block are firm, and present no serious threat to the property?

(ie. they are big enough to basically wipe out the house if they were uprooted, and fell on the house)

]]> 18247dff9282ccdbf162fe67ab0b0254 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic To what extent can agents lie about offers on a property? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409422-to-what-extent-can-agents-lie-about-offers-on-a-property/#post-4691250 Sun, 26 May 2013 13:06:15 +0000 Good advice JacM, thanks.

]]> b0e60bf9209237e911130216de8f6f13 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic To what extent can agents lie about offers on a property? in the forum So...basically the only way https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409422-to-what-extent-can-agents-lie-about-offers-on-a-property/#post-4691247 Sun, 26 May 2013 12:44:24 +0000 So…basically the only way of knowing that they have lied about an offer is if the promptly is still on the market in a few weeks time?

Further to this, is there anything preventing them from taking the liberty of inflating the amount of any offers – real or otherwise?

]]> 3f42144c8ca7ee7fc87472ebc8c4eb3a Jay Sizzle replied to the topic To what extent can agents lie about offers on a property? in the forum Can you ask for the actual https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409422-to-what-extent-can-agents-lie-about-offers-on-a-property/#post-4691245 Sun, 26 May 2013 10:18:12 +0000 Can you ask for the actual amount of the other offers – and if so, to what extent is the agent bound to tell the actual truth?

]]> 8acde4fd13a37aed310a718b02e0a256 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic To what extent can agents lie about offers on a property? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409422-to-what-extent-can-agents-lie-about-offers-on-a-property/#post-4691242 Sun, 26 May 2013 07:51:12 +0000 Also, are there any measures that buyers can take to gauge the reality of either claim?

]]> ef0a93ebd5a1164708572b7eafe5698f Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Using pro valuation figure in negotiating? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409357-using-pro-valuation-figure-in-negotiating/#post-4690750 Wed, 15 May 2013 22:47:58 +0000 And it was good to get a professional unbiased opinion of the property – which was actually inline with our own estimations of the properties worth. The valuer also pointed out some things which we had not consider, which was valuable advice.

is there any point in using the valuation as a bargaining tool in negotiations with the agent – or will…[Read more]

]]> 01333b5f2adb7d45159fbf4ca67e2459 Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Using pro valuation figure in negotiating? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409357-using-pro-valuation-figure-in-negotiating/#post-4690748 Wed, 15 May 2013 04:08:54 +0000 And if you've already engaged an independent valuer, and they have already visited the property?

]]> 68c2e58bf9d333399c78933554246ecd Jay Sizzle replied to the topic Using pro valuation figure in negotiating? in the forum Help Needed! https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4409357-using-pro-valuation-figure-in-negotiating/#post-4690745 Tue, 14 May 2013 23:17:00 +0000 Thanks Jamie – the main issue with what you are suggesting is that the property in question is somewhat unique and it is difficult to find some meaningful comparisons in the area.

How do the bankers generate their valuations?

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