Not sure if I can rely on those figures in API magazine etc.
Tell me about it! I was comparing YIP and API quarterly growth figures for the same suburb – one said an increase of 17%! The other said the growth was going backwards!
Aim for the win-win. As somone mentioned above, the savings involved by not using a realestate agent may be attractive. Are you planning on keeping this as an IP? If so (and you're not planning on knocking it down) you could, as touched on above, rent it back to her. To give comfort you could offer a long lease.
I wouldn't be comfortable with that sort of purchase. I like to spread the risk a bit – I'd take that cash and buy multiple properties at a lower price.
That's pretty much how we've set things up (or are in the process of setting up) except PPoR is PI. Haven't been able to convince my wife that it's probably not the best way to go.
I personally think it's the ideal structure but it does require some discipline. I think it's important to get into the habit of making regular repayments into the offset and not just paying the bare minimum interest repayments.
MRW wrote:
Hope the move goes well.
Thanks mate – should be a fun month. Running the business and trying to renovate a house at the same time
An Option I am considering purchasing a new third property (~900k) in the husband's name (higher income), using an IO loan (secured against 3rd property) and financing partial deposit, stamp duty and costs through LOC on Property 2 (assume the max LOC would be 600*.8-350=$130k). The third property would be an investment property for first two years and then move in as PPOR.
Could be worth while topping this up to 90% and accesing more equity. You'll need to pay some mortgage insurance here but if you can take a much larger deposit into the next deal (the $900k) purchase you'll pay less mortgage insurance on this property. All up, you should be better off in terms of the amount of insurance you have to pay. A good broker will crunch the numbers and work it out.
paisley wrote:
Questions Is the LOC against property 2 deductible along with the IO mortgage on property 3?
Yes, if it's being used as a deposit towards an investment property (which this property will be). If it becomes a PPOR it will no longer be deductable.
paisley wrote:
Are there challenges in converting my current PPOR (property 2) into an investment property?
Not really. You should really convert this loan (and your other IP loan to interest only). Set-up an offset against your current PPOR and place your principle repayments/extra payments in there. Make sure you get a valuation (an appraisal from a real estate agent should suffice) on your current PPOR when it converts into an IP. This if for calculating CGT in the future if/when you decide to sell.
paisley wrote:
Would we be better off selling property 2? Is this option the most effective way to move into a larger family home or should we be considering something different altogether? When we move into property 3, this would change from investment to PPOR – how is it best to transfer equity from either property 1 or 2 into property 3 to minimise non-deductible interest?
paisley wrote:
Unfortunately it's not as simple as that. You can't simply load up your deductable debt while reducing your non-deductable debt. When you move into IP 3 – the $245k loan on IP 1 will be deductable, the $350k loan on IP 2 will be deductable. All the rest, the LOC to borrow the funds for IP 3 and loan on IP 3 won't be deductable – which really isn't the most ideal situation given that your non-deductable debt will be significantly higher than your deductable debt. If you do plan on keeping both IP 1 and IP 2 as they are now, you should switch them to interest only – no point in paying down more of that debt that will become deductable in the future. There are ways to shift debt around – albeit at a cost.
Paying into an offset account on an IO loan is just like paying down the principle on a P&I loan. One of the big differences however is the flexibility the IO loan with an offset account offers.
Here's a real life example. Across my current portfolio, all loans are IO. On my PPOR I have an IO loan with an offset attached. I currently place any spare cash/savings in that offset account.
Soon I'll be leaving this property to live in another IP I own. Therefore, my current PPOR will become an IP. When this happens, I'll remove the money from my offset on the current PPOR and place it in the offset account linked to my new PPOR.
Some investors do prefer to have some loans set up as P&I. It's not how I would do things but differen't strokes for differen't folks.
I'd suggest starting your hunt for a PM by ringing around to ask to speak to someone in the property management department of each respective realestate agency and see which ones actually ring you back. It won't be many, despite you telling them you're looking to recruit a PM for your property. That will help reduce your list of contenders right away.
Agree with Jac. It's a great way to weed out the poorer performing ones. If they are courteous and professional enough to return your call – hopefully they'll treat your prospective tenants in the same manner. I've had an IP sit vacant for three weeks while a PM looked after it – we began self managing and had 5 groups through the door the next day. That made we wonder whether the PM was actually bothering to speak with people who called up interested in the property. This was one bad experience we had – I'd never generalise and paint all PM's with the same brush.
Hmmm…..sounds like the bank is being a little difficult. I had a client in a similar situation recently. He went to his lender to access some equity and they pretty much told him that unless he was going to finance the next property through them, they weren't interested in valuing his current property.
Depending on your lender you may be able to "top-up" your current loan to 90% of the properties value – giving you access to around $70k (based on the lower end of your estimated property value). It is likely you'll have to pay some mortgage insurance. If you'd prefer to avoid mortgage insurance – you could opt for an 80% top-up but that would give you access to only $23k.
We are operating in a new lending environment at present – that may be a reason as to why the lender is reluctant to provide the "top-up" at the moment.
In any case, an independent mortgage broker that knows the ropes should be able to sort it out for you. If your current lender won't help you out they should be able to place you with one that will.
I'm glad I found this website This is helping me a lot. Ryan I do not mind at all. So basically what you are all saying is that I can switch my loan to an interest only loan even though I will still be living there for a while until we find the right place and by the time that settles and we build etc…?
Cheers Pri
Yes. If this property is going to become an investment property in the future then it would be ideal to convert this loan to interest only now. Set up an offset account against the loan (if the lender allows) and deposit any savings in there. When you're ready to purchase your next PPOR, you can withdraw the money from your offset and use it towards your new PPOR purchase.