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    Jamie M wrote:

    Saving a 20% deposit will take some time. I'm not sure how much properties are going for in Alice Springs but if you were to purchase something for around $300k, you'd need to save a $60k deposit as well as the funds to complete (stamp duty, legal fees, ect).

    With a combined income of $130k and no kids this should be fairly achievable, although the NT market is rising faster than most so you may have a good point there. I'd still go for the 20% deposit if they could see their way to doing it. Let's face it, their first rental lease will likely be for 12 months anyhow.

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    I'm not particularly au fait with the finer details of trusts, but from reading Dymphna Boholt's "From Virtually Zero to $3.5 Million in My First 18 Months in Real Estate" the impression I was left with was that only a very good accountant could keep track of the complexity of such arrangements, and I've never met an accountant in whose faith I could put this much control of my financial affairs. Nor would I want to pay the setup and maintenance costs of the tangled structure she espouses, or fill in the multiple tax returns and study CCHs regularly looking for new loopholes and changes.

    A company merely keeps property dealings at arm's length so that your PPOR isn't on the line should anything go wrong. Since my strategy is to hang onto property indefinitely, potential CGT losses are fairly irrelevant. More important when starting out is maximal availability of expansion funds and a simple but workable structure. There is still adequate tax flexibility in the sense that you can leave funds in the company and pay 30% maximum or distribute franked profits to directors if needed. And further down the track if something more substantial is required, it can be converted to a trust.

    I don't quite understand your point about fixed shareholdings and dividends, the OP was asking for advice for himself and his partner on property investment and not trying to set up a megalithic corporation. The average property investor only ever buys one investment property, and very few have more than four.

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    EHCC wrote:

    Hello to all of you people on here. This is my first post.

    I have been very busy reading all the posts etc and i tell you some of your are switched on investors. I wished i started sooner. The dude who posted a video driving all night to a secret town looking at the burnt out house and making 30 offers has inspired me. Sorry but i cant find his post again if i dont quote you.

    Do you mean Nathan Birch?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0KNRTgNM8

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    EHCC wrote:

    Hello to all of you people on here. This is my first post.

    I have been very busy reading all the posts etc and i tell you some of your are switched on investors. I wished i started sooner. The dude who posted a video driving all night to a secret town looking at the burnt out house and making 30 offers has inspired me. Sorry but i cant find his post again if i dont quote you.

    Do you mean Nathan Birch?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0KNRTgNM8

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    Post deleted, misread OP's financial status.

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    Since foreign nationals can own property in Australia, I'd imagine that none would be needed at all.

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    Hi Ben,

    Don't bother with the HP arrangement, it will make zero dfference to your ability to apply for a loan. Banks work on specific low-risk criteria which include:

    – must have been employed in the same job for 12 months
    – must be able to show a history of saving at least 5% deposit
    – must pay Mortgagee Insurance if borrowing over 80%

    Your best bet is to take advantage of the fact that your fiance will be working at a bank and use their preferential treatment for staff. If she has come straight from a banking job in kiwiland, a reference from there may even be enough to circumvent the waiting period. Since you're both earning good money, save 20% of your first property purchase to avoid Mortgagee Insurance which would cost you about $3000 on the average loan. Doing this will also bypass a lot of the usual frowning and dithering that bank loan officers tend to do when they're called on to actually make a decision because your application will have ticked all the right boxes.

    Put the PPOR in your own names to get CGT exemption, then start a $2.00 company for the investment properties. When/if you have kids down the track, consider a discretionary trust.

    Good luck, and welcome to Australia bro.

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