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    Originally posted by ANUBIS:

    Sorry Geo – you have it the wrong way around. AAPT etc are the competitors and can force Telstra/Optus to adjust pricing or bundling with good offers. ACN or similar can’t – they simply will not have the market power to have an impact – especially when they will get next to no discount to resell the services (of Telstra) anyway.

    If AAPT had the power, they would have done it by now and if cheap was the way to go then AAPT, DigiPlus and IPrimus would have been the top providers in Australia but it remains to be Telstra and Optus.

    I don;t see how you can justify that ACN will not have the market power. In Finland, they acquired 100,000 customers in their first month with no advertising. No Telecommunications company in the world has done that with advertising – now who’s got the market power!

    ACN infact can and do sell their services far cheaper than Telstra and Optus. As mentioned previosuly, ACN-ACN local calls Free. You don’t see Telstra or Optus doing that! ACN are the world’s largest service provider now in 18 countries – soon to launch into NZ then into all of Asia – you talk about Power…

    Originally posted by Scremin:

    …their aim is to help people save money. They don’t spend millions on advertising and thus pass the savings on to customers.

    – Absolutely Correct!

    Then again, in the time I worked for T, the biggest concern many people had was not saving money, but reliable service. It will be interesting to see if they can offer both.

    Hey Steph, an audit was done on ACN in the states and it was found that 90% of customer calls were answered within 90 seconds by a live operator – not some voice machine. Every time I have called them to date, I have been answered by a live operator within a minute. They offer great savings and great customer service.

    Originally posted by redwing:

    ACN i believe in other countries does more than telephones.

    Yes that’s right Redwing and infact, they will be launching all 3 services into Australia – landlines, mobile and Internet with a possibility of Gas and Electricity also to be launched in the future. Australia is the best country for de-regulation.

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    Anubis – You are wrong there. ACN’s competitors are Telstra and Optus. There not worried about the smaller companies such as AAPT, DigiPlus, IPrimus etc.

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    When your in God’s company, then you’re in Great company

    …Yes Im Christian…but there is a difference between a Christian by name and Christian by faith and deeds.

    You see, Christian comes from Christ and ian where ian means follower thus meaning Christ follower – now do we truly follow Christ in all His ways.

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    Originally posted by RodC:

    Long Distance and mobile are a little cheaper, I wonder who’s network they are using.

    I think there more than a little cheaper. ACN – ACN STD calls are only charged at flagfall. That means you get charged 35c and then it’s Free minutes from then on.

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    Thanks Westan,

    your always looking out for the well-being of others.

    cheers and God Bless,

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    WOW!

    Some great posts by you all and great discussions from Marc and Noddies.

    Oh be careful, the evil Omega people may trick you, “seek professional advice”

    Look I know a fair bit about Network Marketing and seen most of them…Herbalife, Amway, Network21, Omegatrend, Usana etc. The only real way to know how something works is to try it so let me put my 2 cents in from experience…

    Some of the Network Marketing companies out there are good (I’m NOT promoting any as I think it’s the wrong kind of work – let me explain)…what gave them (especially Amway) a bad name is the people. People were promoting it wrong and thus gave some of the Network Marketing companies a bad image. They were trying to force people to buy products of them – now sure, some of the products may be better quality than the supermarket (they all say that) but they were approaching potential customers in the wrong fashion.

    Here is the nutshell of it all…I have researched many Network Marketing companies and it comes down to this. With most of them for you to make money, you have to do one of two things. You have to either get people to buy products off you or you have to get others to get others to buy products from them and you get commissions.

    Now, like I said, some companies are good but I can’t see myself convincing people why they need to buy a certain shampoo, soap or viatmin via the internet or a 1300 number and why it’s better then the local Safeway or Coles…hhhmmm…

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    You can always choose to show all the topics you’ve discussed over the years.

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    Geo.

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    Hi all,

    Yes I’ve had dealings with them and I’ll clear some things up for you all.

    They don’t need cash to start up except to set up the Customer Service which is located on 1 Pacific Hwy. Nth. Sydney.

    They rely on word of mouth and have been extremely successful for the past 12 years in all 17 countries. Australia is the 18th country in which to launch followed by NZ early 2005 then into Asia.

    I’ve heard that 87 countries have signed for de-regulation and Australia is the 18th country in which to launch so HUGE business potential for the future. Great Residual Cashflow!

    SupreTed – your right about the line-rentals. They’re ever gowing up. In regards to ACN, when they come into a country, they match or beat the two largest Telco providers – (in this case Telstra 70%+ and Optus 10%+ of the market) and further beat them by offering ACN-ACN FREE local landline calls and ACN-ACN STD flagfall only – meaning when dialing another ACN STD number, all you pay is 35c and then you get FREE minutes.

    Anubis – they will have dramatic impact. One example is Finland where they launched recently. Now in Finland, they launched only one service (mobiles) and within their first month they had 100,000 customers on their books (5% of the population). Finland’s population is 6 million. All without a cent on advertising.

    Now with Australia, they are launching 3 services (landlines, mobiles, Internet) and are more than 3 times the population.

    Finland:
    – Population: 6 million
    – One service: mobiles
    – 1st 30 days: 100,000 customers
    NO Advertising

    Australia:
    – Population: 20+ million
    – 3 services: Landlines, Mobiles, Internet
    – Launch date: 1st November
    NO Advertising

    This business is also global, meaning you can get paid when people pay their bills, turn on the light, watch TV, cook dinner, turn on the gas heater, surf the Net etc from any of the countries in which ACN operates. The other great thing is that you even get paid on the line-rental. Customers have nothing to lose as all they do is try the service – it’s Free to try, Free to leave and they can leave any time they like and there’s NO contract. If they don’t like obtaining Free calls, they can always switch to another network and pay for it. Simple.

    If any of you require further info, please email me.

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    Site looks good Dan – I think I’ll have to quit my job to go through it all.

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    It could mean that one of the units has a tenant in there – you make him/her the head tenant to get others to fill the rooms and he gets a few dollars out of it.

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    I can only suggest to look up the Yellow pages and White Pages and call up every real estate agent you can. Drive around more – persistence pays off. Also, contact the local councils – they might have something for you.

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    Hi Ali G,

    I think he means to rent it out with higher rent on a week-to-week basis rather than having it as long-term rental agreement.

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    Hi Bizibee,

    Welcome also to the forum. I would recommend that as upon reading the book, the way for you to put it into practise is to begin speaking with agents, solicitors, property managers and other forumites on this forum. Also attend regular seminars and meetings.

    Kind Regards and all the best.

    George.

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    I think there are too many bread crumbs in there…

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    Commercial props usually have greater +CF but less Capital as there tends to be less land value which appreciates.

    …but a mixture of both is good.

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    Hi Paleenia,

    – Begin by driving around some suburbs
    – Talk to agents
    – Talk to Property Managers
    – Attend Auctions
    – You can buy cheap land by buying off-the-plan or simply negotiating your offer.

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    Hi Busta,

    PM or email me if your willing to have an attorney and accountant who’s in the city or western suburbs of Vic.

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    Hi Bj,

    Check the Salvos or other ex-furniture places – you can usually buy them cheap with good quality. Check the Yellow Pages or White Pages. There is no need whatsoever to go over the top -cause if you do, chances are they (the tenants) won’t respect it.

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    Hi Darls,

    Great to see someone like yourself taking the big steps. I was going to suggest that if you were in Melbourne, we could catch up and perhaps aI can help out (I can sign – Auslan) but when I read on and found that you were in Sydney, I thought it might be difficult.

    Derek and Simon have pretty much said it all but heres my 2 cents worth…

    In regards to Interest Rates, don’t be overly concerned – you can always go with a Fixed IO option.

    How are the shares going? If there not performing to the standard you expect, I would pull the $150k out and re-invest that into 3-4 properties.

    You have to assess whether you want to go +CF or Negative Gearing – I guess it depends on the income of both you and your husband.

    You mentioned that you’ve found several properties in south WA for under $50K – this is mostly rural area where there wouldn’t be room for much capital growth – have you researched the area well?

    As previously mentioned, set your goal up – then see what you need to do to reach that goal and by when.

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    George.

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    This has been discussed many times previously so do a search on it – you’ll find the answers your after.

    Personally, I would recomend sitting with an accountant do discuss the structures with you as I believe you have it wrong. It is better to have your IP’s under a Trust rather than under your individual names.

    Regards,
    George.

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