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  • Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    Kev,

    Welcome. If it were me starting today I would buy IP first and look for property with two things: 1) Cash flows balanced where rent at least covers the interest payments, 2) Potential to manufacture equity through a value adding strategy. * Repeat *

    Your residence will need to be near work, friends, family and you have a lifestyle considerations.

    Your investments can be anywhere that fit your strategy.

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    Hi Buddy Fox,

    I grew up not far from there but having said that not really kept an eye on Woodbury. We have rpdata here in the office so if you want to know about a particular property and the ones around it you can send me a private message on forum and I will see what I can do by way of a CMA and suburb report for you.

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    Have to agree with Richard and Jamie in that as we are all investors here (the brokers and non brokers alike) hopefully your broker is spending more time on the phone with BDM’s than in search engines.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    There is absolute merit in designing and siting granny flats so they they can be interchanged as either an investment earner but also as a family’s backyard cabin, teenage retreat or guest accommodation. It pains me when an investor buys a property which simply has bad separation and bad geometry. This I must agree is the destruction of a rear yard. It makes me cry- I simply refuse to do approvals on blocks which aren’t spatially ‘right’.

    Have to agree that design is the key. If you are looking at a refinance of your granny flat loan after completion it is important to ask are you using the right bank – who is doing the valuation and remember that the valuation (whether favourable to you or not) is entirely and completely separate to the true market value. Valuations are based on historical comps (as mnentioned) and when you sit your property on the market to sell you need to see what the market will pay for it. If you have done a good job (great job really) then the market will respond as you have added equity and cash flow. Now in most peoples language that is a good outcome. But if you haven’t – well you haven’t and the market will tell you that at sale time. Valuations are just a finance tool. Another one of the tools we use as investors to get things done that we need done. Probably a good idea to respect them but not get to hung up on. Robert Schiller says that finance is the technology of getting things done. Nothing more and definitely not rocket surgery. Often times, what people are doing with a granny flat strategy is converting properties that leak cash into properties that add cash. Now I have been banging on about this since I joined the forums and been in a couple of heated stouches over that back in the day. If something is leaking then plug the leak.

    As for the Northern Sydney versus Western Sydney debate. Well I look at it this way. Some things are generally more saleable than others before we throw the grannys into the mix. As a starting point its good to ask a due diligence question, “Is the property whether it be out west or some other place a good idea before the granny flat. If yes proceed. Is the granny flat is the key to making the deal a good idea – avoid! A great property that has had a value add strategy applied to it will be great plus have some income. A dog property will be a dog property with or without the GF on it. When I am investing for myself I always ask the question, “If I am not around can this property support itself.” If it can’t then the exit strategy has to be pretty good to justify a purchase.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    The approximate value of property is $400,000 and we have equity of about $110,000.

    Sald – would echo Richards comments only to add that as I often say to people lets start with an free RP Data report on your property and or free valuation to see what equity you actually have. You may be no need for lmi at all.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    Mentors – such a hard question because it goes back to how you learn. If you have had any workplace education lately you may have come across learning styles debate. Peter Spann is someone I have read widely, I read everything Steve has published as well which is extremely valuable but again not new at all. To be honest I was very surprised about Steve’s negative blog on using smsf to purchase property. I mean after 2008 who would want to be approaching 60 and have a portfolio full of paper assets. At least with paid off property you have rental income to sustain you (plus tones of other property strategies to turn equity into cash) . It felt a bit like that was taking us all back a dozen years in terms of strategy and thought leadership in the are of property education and can’t really understand the thought behind it – and then other things I read from him seem to be spot on. I have a feeling Steve may change his ming on that one in his next book ( being cheeky now) Like Nigel said it will come down to doing deals. Nigel has been on these forums for years perhaps give him a ring.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    Hi – from a construction point of view it is unlikely that your garage would have been constructed with the right foundations to support a second storey addition or granny accommodation. Only if it was mine I would get a builder around to sus out whether the existing structure could be converted. Make sure you account for there time in some way and don’t waste it. If not you are starting from scratch and a 2 storey with such a small footprint may not “stack – up”.

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    Profile photo of Don NicolussiDon Nicolussi
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    There is a NZ forum a bit like this one. Olly Newland and Kieran Trass were very active. Kieran had a few difference business in the education and stats field. Last I heard Olly was doing mentoring – but that was a while ago.

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    Hi Benny,

    This is the key, “On the other hand, we know that other neighbours) have been able to do this in the past.”

    Freedom of information laws will allow you to access exactly how they did it and who helped them in terms of professionals. Apply through council.

    It will cost you the cost of photocopies.

    Once you have the info then look for some skilled pro’s. Trying to do it on your own would be hard first time around.

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    Se7en – just wondering is this a project home builder or are you having builders quote on a design of yours that you have submitted to your local council and received approvals on etc.

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    Hi Burrito – having read through the thread there is just one thing I wanted to ad. Buying one property is not really a valid strategy. Nigel has been on the forum for many many years like myself so perhaps have a chat to him about non recourse borrowing. There is little point buying just one home.

    It would be good to consider strategies to build a portfolio.

    Could you buy 10 income streams over the course of 3 years with the right structures & research.

    Here are my only rules to long distance investing: Visit, visit, & visit. Become a local. Read their news. Bird dog the purchases but do the rest yourself.

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    Hi – as the others have said that is a very difficult question to answer and will depend on so many factors.

    * Just an important note – at least I think it is. Is it a design that you have used before or are you looking for them to develop the concept for you.

    * Are they going to release the dwg files.

    * Get something in writing that the concept and design is yours not theirs.

    This issues will become very important if as you say you want them to bring it to a "certain stage". If you want to sell with approvals and not build it you want these things covered off. Good fun though!

    A 4 unit job could be cheaper than some of the prices quoted above but one simple item such as storm water engineering requirements could add an extra 5k. No harm in drawing up a list of your top 3 based on recommendations and their portfolio of work and then factoring price later.

    Would they offer a fixed price? How much are revisions?

    Will you get 3d renderings that you can use in your marketing campaign or are these extra. What software are they using. Almost everyone uses the same programs but check. Are you going to use engineers they recommend etc or will you to that separately.

    In the end a bad design will cost just a much to build (or more ) as a good design so go for quality.  My preference is to get the DA and CC drawings done at the same time but that will depend a lot on your council.

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    Private lending would be an option at 60% LVR if you are really serious about it or higher on a second mortgage basis. There is a better way to go about it though.

    Expect to pay at least 10% PA on a first mortgage basis for private. There are still lots and lots of low doc loans around outside of the major lenders using 6 months business income to verify earnings or accountant certs and all sort of combinations but you still have the ABN and gst time limits to contend with ( but you are only paying bank rates and a small preimum ). Plus your broker will also have to comply with the law in this regard as well and ask the right questions and document your responses etc.

    Off the finance part of it for a sec.

    Most people in this forum would agree that you make your money when you buy. That is, the ability to pick something up below value or the valuation the bank gives it and identifying properties with value ad potential.

    Learn that skill. You can do it while you are working and use the solid income from your great secure government job to buy them and flip them. Talk to an accountant to get your structure right mostly because you have a partner and you want to have clear strategies in case there is a breakdown.

    Not to say that people don't make money doing reno's but doing one at a time is slow and you will get limited by your body. Use the old grey matter and learn a few skills. Negotiate. Study the zoning and property use regulations in your target area.

    This is an example of what I am talking about. Buy a house with a  enough land to do a simple sub-divison and sell house and land. You could finance this with a standard resi loan up to 95% LVR if you are working.  Or even say 90% LVR with a 20k line of credit at settlement to use in the project.You have rental income for servicing as well. Use your seed money for costs. Keep the job until you have your first 5 to 6 projects done and then you'll be right. You can also use this time to see if the business relationship with you partner is going to work. Very basic strategy but you will make more money with your mind than with the paint brush with a bit of planning and study.

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    Simon,

    Superfund? Have you considered if the combined balance of your current funds will let you leverage into an investment property through a Self Managed Super Fund. You mentioned "maxed out" so it looks like you have a concern about your current income supporting borrowings. Something to think about. You could also structure something like an NRAS property inside your SMSF. Granted this is a bit niche and would not do anything to offset the negative cash flow position of your current portfolio. The other negative is that gains will be effectively quarantined inside the smsf so you would have to weigh that up to. Have a few more ideas but actually just cooking tea for the kids so I will try and get back to this thread later. Cheers.

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    Agreed it keeps us busy smiley – currently doing 7 property portfolio with 4 cross coll to a major with those 4 in 5 different security combinations with numerous facilities.  Pretty common. Just curious Roxy how did the broker position that structure to you. Was there a reason?

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    Hi _ do you have any further information. What are your goals? Upfront valuations will determine your true equity position and this will be a good starting point. However, we will need to know the income side of the equation to have a look your ability to leverage that equity into other investments

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    Suri – jump on the phone to your lawyer and get some help with the contract just as a start you are going to want:

    • Contract subject to finance
    • Time to get building tenders – turn key prices
    • Valuations as is an on completion

    Others will have more to add to this list there is a lot to consider.

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    So working backwards you could ask a different question. Are you a buy hope and pray investor. If yes then these figures are very important. Hang on, or are they? Aren't they just record or historical data rather then predictors of future growth. To work out what is going to happen in the future you will have to do buckets of research and then do what some people call "take a position".

    When you take a position you use all the available data and back yourself. What is happening in the economy and macro front. Forget about the housing itself. Strangley this is one of the last indicators you should use at it is lagging two to 5 years behind the drivers that cause the growth in prices.

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    There is a saying people use, "shoot the dogs" in your portfolio.  I agree that no-one can make the decision for you and maybe half the battle will be working out which concerns are emotional and which are financial. Get out your excel spreadsheets and crunch away.  Are your repayments greater than $320 per week? Is it the property or other discretionary spending that is problem – cars, eating out, dodads! Are you claiming all the deductions your are entitled to.

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    HI jmsrachel – dare i say it – stop watching ACA and read a book or download an audio book and listen to it. ACA would be about as productive for you as listening to talkback radio. Please don't hate on me ray hadley fans.

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