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  • Profile photo of anthonyqanthonyq
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    @alpha22
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    Hi All,

    I just had a question in regards to appointing a new company trustee, in the event of creditors chasing you. As in, how it works or is done.

    I’m more looking at, when a creditor comes after you (or non fraudulent bankruptcy), what steps are triggered to protect the assets held in trust by the trustee?

    So Bob sets up a standard discretionary trust with a trustee company:
    Trustee = Contoso Pty Ltd
    Trust = Bob’s Family Trust
    Beneficiary = Bob, Sally, Paul

    When a property is purchased, its title goes into the name of Contoso Pty Ltd.

    Contoso Pty Ltd is a non trading company with Bob as the sold director/shareholder.

    If Bob is sue’d, and he is a director, how can he appoint a new company trustee without triggering stamp duty as the title would change on the property wouldn’t it? Also because he is director/shareholder, can’t the shares be seized, to control the asset?

    Where exactly does the protection kick in?

    Thanks!

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    @terryw
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    Being a director is a role, not property that can fall into the hands of creditors – but the shares of the company can. So it may be a good idea to change trustees asap.

    first thing to do is to review the deed. Find out who has the power to change trustees. Often it will be the appointor, sometimes it may be an appointor and a protector other trusts it may be the trustee.

    The deed must be followed strictly. If the apppointor is required to give written notification to the trustee then this must happen. Non delivery may mean the change is invalid. Even if the appoinntor is Bob and Bob is the sole director of the company Bob should send a regitered letter to himself for proof.

    Legal advice should be sought, especially on the stamp duty side. In NSW there is generally no stamp duty or just $50 but there may be full duty if changing trustee means a change in the beneficiaries of the trust. Wording of the deed is important.

    Any mortgages over trust property will need to be released and new loans and mortgages entered into by the new trustee. Its a major event.

    And a trustee has fiduciary duties, but so does an appointor. so specialist legal advice would be a good idea before changing anything, especially if bankruptcy is looming. A bankrupt person cannot act as director, so a new director should be sought and new shareholders conisdered – a trustee of another trust perhaps. Also read the deed about what happens to the position of appointor if the appointor becomes bankrupt. In my deeds the appointor is removed automatically.

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
    http://www.Structuring.com.au
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    Profile photo of anthonyqanthonyq
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    @alpha22
    Join Date: 2011
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    Thanks Terry that’s awesome.

    I also downloaded your Tax and Trusts For Property Investors and it’s a great eBook. Read it on the weekend and it answered all my questions!

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    @terryw
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    I can’t remember what I wrote in that book now, but now that you mention it I may have covered changing trustees!

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
    http://www.Structuring.com.au
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    Lawyer, Mortgage Broker and Tax Advisor (Sydney based but advising Aust wide) http://www.Structuring.com.au

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