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  • Profile photo of emptyvesselemptyvessel
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    Hi Folks,
     just wondering if there is anyone willing to share their experiences with investing in share accommodation?

    Types of things I am wondering;
    – How the banks view it for LVR and serviceability
    – Landlords insurance –> More expensive, special considerations?
    – Property Managers –> How much higher are the fees? Are their share accomm. specialists
    – Have you successfully held a share accommodation for a medium period (5+ years) and then sold or developed and sold?
    – Any horror stories?
    – Any super success stories?
    – Wear and tear? I expect this would be higher than a standard tenancy. Comments?
    – Fully / partially furnished or not?
    – Can I happily mix students with standard single tenants? Or is this just not a viable approach?

    Thanks in advance for any experience you can share,
    EV

    Profile photo of wisepearlwisepearl
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    just a couple comments, though i am by no means an expert. One of my IPs was a traditional house, I did some minor modifications and rent it out room by room. My parents home is also now converted to share accommodation.

    -landlords insurance can be very hard to find for share-accommodation, and not worth risking it by purchasing traditional insurance as i’m sure they wouldn’t pay up should something happen. you need to be open to the insurance people that its a share house with multiple tenants

    – didn’t use a property manager, manage it myself

    – be careful about electricity and gas bills. Somewhere else on this forum I found a post from someone who had renovated student accommodation and she spent a fair bit of $$ on the electrician’s bill and got him to install a meter in each bedroom. The agreement was that the owner paid electricity/bills in the common areas, but each tenant paid their own room usage. this was aimed to cut down on 24 hour heating or air con use and huge bills. My summer aircon bill for this house really hurt, it was huge and I’m sure its because the tenants had the AC on 24/7 as they didn’t pay their own electricity.

    – tenant selection is crucial, and its important that if its a small sharehouse the other tenants are given the chance to be involved in tenant selection. after all, to have someone move in quickly but causes other tenants to move out due to their behaviour is not ideal. Taking the time to find someone who is the right fit then everyone should be happy. I’ve had minimal vacancies in my house due to this, longest one was 3 weeks vacant for one room, other tenants rejected one tenant application but i rejected the others.

    – fully furnished is generally the way to go, and include high speed wireless internet too

    as for mixing students with others, the most important thing to ask is the working hours. you wouldn’t want to end up with a hospitality worker doing variable shifts, with shift-workers such as nurses who swing from night and day shifts, and students… At my share-house IP I don’t mind if the tenant studies or works, as long as they wont be leaving the house before 6:30am or returning after 11pm, and showering within these times. Wow, seeing this in writing makes me seem overly controlling, lol, but its a simply question asked “what time will you generally leave the house in the morning” and again its all about the balance of keeping existing people happy and not having their peace and quiet suddenly damaged by people returning at 1am, then watching TV for a while before having a shower and going to their room.

    Before investing in a sharehouse, I had lived in 4 different arrangements locally so felt that I understood what works and what doesn’t work from a tenants point of view.

    its time-consuming, can be tough, but also quite rewarding. The IP when I bought it some years ago was being rented for $275 a week as a 3 bedroom home by a couple. I made a few cosmetic improvements, furnished the place, put key locks on each door, and now collect $570 per week. HOWEVER from this I have to deduct electricity, gas, internet, water usage. I do get to claim depreciation on the furniture/assets though. Also, when I looked at purchasing another property, the bank would only consider market rental price for that house, around $300, meaning my serviceability was reduced in their eyes, despite the fact I felt I was doing fine.

    Cheers,
    Emma

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    Remember the laws will vary state to state as well. In my experience it is very hard to find a knowledgable PM for share accommodation and the ones who are knowledgable don't manage them.

    It can have great rewards but, in my opinion (as a PM), the additional work and risk associated with it is just not worth it.

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