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  • Profile photo of laughing Maxlaughing Max
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    Hi,

    I’m new on forums and would appreciate any help!

    I’m looking at purchasing a property and in the past have always used a solicitor for all legal matters. Lately I’ve been researching “Conveyancing Works” on the net after hearing about them on the television. Would you recommend going through a company such as this or sticking with a regular solicitor?

    Laughing Max

    Profile photo of peter-reebokpeter-reebok
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    have always used a family solicitor – been with the family for over 100 yrs. But given that 3 yrs ago one of them ran off with my inheritance, (yeah – they stole it) I used a conveyancer for the last 2.

    In general, feedback seems to be that if it is all straightforward – use a conveyancer.
    If there are any complications – use a solicitor.

    The problem is – you don’t know if there are going to be any problems!

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    I have always used a solicitor.

    Always found my solicitor to be easy to get on with and down to earth, someone who speaks my language and not all the mumbo jumbo legal jargon.

    Try their website, http://www.tranterlawyers.com.au

    Matt Tranter is his name and, like I said, he is easy to get along with and to understand.

    And no, I do not work for them, incase you were wondering, I am simple coal miner.

    But if you do contact them, tell Matt that Fatman recommended you, he will look after you.

    [strum]

    FATMAN :-)

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    I used to use our family solicitor for all my conveyancing. Over the years there were hold ups and stuffups. Lets face it….the solicitor doesnt do the conveyancing, the office staff do. Ive had the solicitor tell me an extension on a contract was required and that could have given the vendors an out if they wished.

    Last time I bought a house I did my own legals. I bought the kit for $130 and telephone assistance if required. This was a great learning experience. There was really only about 2 full days work but spread out over a couple of weeks. It is a bit fiddly but nothing hard about it.

    For my latest purchase I am using Conveyancing Works. It is only $380. Dunno if they are any good but I do know what searches need to be done.

    Personally i think solicitors had a monopoly on conveyancing too long. THey like to keep it a mystery to make people believe it is more difficult than it really is.

    good luck in whatever you decide
    milly

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    Conveyencing company – they specialise in it and it’s cheaper (so the add says). Solicitors just get their office staff to do it as mentioned above. There are hold-ups and it’s impossible to get them on the phone. And they charge bigger fees in my experience.

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    We’ve used settlement agents for every purchase. We are in WA where they are far more common and significantly cheaper than using a solicitor. Sounds like there is a big market opportunity in other states as this doesn’t seem to be the case

    Never used a solicitor for purchasing property….nothing has been that complicated that it has warranted it.

    We’ve sold two properties and didn’t use anyone….what’s there to do ?? If the purchasers didn’t slap the unconditional cash on the table, we didn’t let them have the title deed….simple.

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    Hi, we are also in WA and have always used settlement agents.
    My question is, do you have to use a settlement agent/solicitor in the State in which you are buying, or can you use your tried and trusted one in the State in which you live?
    We have always purchased in WA so far, but it’s awfully hot in the kitchen at present, so looking over the garden fence.
    Thanks

    jebro

    Profile photo of FrancisRuggieroFrancisRuggiero
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    Would you use the local mechanic to diagnose your medical condition?
    I believe not.
    Smart people use smart professionals who take pride in their work and do not delegate to unqualified persons and as a Lawyer, I consider myself as a professional and do not accept some of the views espoused in this forum. Would you buy a car and not insure it? I doubt it unless you are not interested in protecting your investment, and yet a property costs more. If you are worried about penny and cents, then you should not be in the property market.

    Francis Ruggiero
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    Would you use the local mechanic to diagnose your medical condition?

    Of course not – but then I wouldn’t use a judge or QC to diagnose my medical condition either – what’s your point….and how does it relate to the topic of discussion ?? What an obtuse analogy….

    as a Lawyer, I consider myself as a professional and do not accept some of the views espoused in this forum.

    Oh well Francis….I suppose that’s the good thing about forums such as these….Lawyers don’t always get the final say….despite their passion for arguing the toss.

    Would you buy a car and not insure it? I doubt it unless you are not interested in protecting your investment

    Francis you really are showing your lack of maturity in investing philosophy if you believe cars are investments worth protecting…and how they have little if any parallel to property investing.

    If you are worried about penny and cents, then you should not be in the property market.

    Once again Francis, you are showing your lack of experience, as most experienced property savvy investors will quickly enlighten you that having an eye on the costs details is one of the facets that successful property investors all have.

    Unlike at a lawyers convention, this forum is chock full of intelligent canny investors who are looking at and discussing ways of getting the paperwork completed in a correct, timely and efficient manner. Are you suggesting only qualified Lawyers are capable ??

    My faith in lawyer’s over inflated views has been restored.

    Have a great day Francis… [biggrin]

    Profile photo of Luke TaylorLuke Taylor
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    I have done many property purchases and sales over the past ten years and each time i have used solicitors i have mostly dealt with their $20 an hour secretary while being charged around $80 to $100 + an hour.
    Many times i questioned how this works???

    I think if some one can find a reliable conveyancer and its a straightforward transaction I would recomend them hands down .

    We’ve got 70 yrs on planet earth,Lets make the most of every day!

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    Profile photo of FrancisRuggieroFrancisRuggiero
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    Thank you for your various points, which in essence seem to provide personal views which did not add anything to the question.
    If this is the level of discussion, then the forum is missing the point.

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    I agree with Dazzling, in regards to what Francis has said.

    Does not sound real sensible at all, a bit out of touch perhaps??

    I have always used a solicitor, BUT a solicitor that SPECIALISES in conveyancing and one who actually INVESTS as well. Same as for an accountant, only use one that actually invests in property and has experience in property investing to ensure maximum benefits for yourself.

    BUT I would use a conveyancer over a solicitor without the neccessary property experience, both investing themselves and also with the legalities of everything.

    Thats just me though, each to their own. Thats why the forum is great, everyone can have their own say!![chill]

    FATMAN :-)

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    I have only ever used conveyancers for buying & selling. Am using Sergeants which seem to be a franchise in Vic. They almost go into overkill as far as I’m concerned but certainly cross is . ts. They have access to a franchise solicitor (no extra charge ) if the going gets rough. Cost for Section 32 & all dealings with the RE $550. I assumed this would be cheaper than a solicitor.

    Fern

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    Just to clear up some confusion as to conveyancers or solicitors, all conveyancing in Queensland is done by solicitors.

    There has been no deregulation of conveyancing in Queensland so whether you use a legal firm which specialises in conveyancing such as Conveyancing Works etc or your local solicitor the work is supposed to be under the control of a solicitor.

    In case your wondering yes I am a solicitor and yes I do specialise in conveyancing. However as you will notice I am not trying to promote my practice merely clearing up a misconception as to who does conveyancing in Queensland.

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    I prefer to use a switched on solicitor that specialises in conveyancing because I get legal advice and conveyancing all in one. If something goes wrong with the deal, I have a very smart lawyer on my side and that has been a huge advantage for me in the past when people have tried to rip me off.

    Todd Burns
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    I was going to purchase some land off the plan a few years ago and the solicitor picked up a few problems and I quickly pulled the plug on that investment. If I had used a conveyancer, they may not have picked it up.

    However, conveyancers generally spend all day doing property transactions, so they tend to be good at this. Solicitors are often doing other things and many are unsure of the conveyancing proceedures. Solicitors also often just hand the matter to the non lawyer conveyancer in the office anyway.

    I suppose it comes down to the person doing the job.

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    I suppose it comes down to the person doing the job.

    Agreed terryw, unfortunately, when you walk into the offices of these people, ……and the same goes for PM’s, mechanics, lawyers, doctors, plumbers etc etc etc, unfortunately they don’t have a sign plastered across their forehead saying ;

    “Yes indeed, I’m one of those bad practitioners that everyone warns you about…..avoid me like the plague. If you do business with me, it’s gonna get nasty and you’ll get ripped off and frustrated the entire time.”

    Conversely, the really good ones also don’t have a sign plastered across their forehead saying ;

    “Yes indeed, I’m one of those gems that you sometimes come across, you’ll form a lifelong association with me for all of your (insert service provided) needs.”

    Usually you need to wade through the first pile of dross, at great expense and time and frustration to eventually arrive at someone from the second pile.

    Profile photo of kiaraxoxo96kiaraxoxo96
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    hey everybody

    i know a great law office and they have solicitors and really good people that specialise in conveyincing.
    here are the details
    Behan Legal
    Level 1, 270 Bay st
    Port Melbourne, 3207
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    Network….. I became good friends with a Solicitor and he does a fantastic job in looking after the legal process. I have heard some horror stories from when i was working in RE using conveyencers… But then there would be the same for Solicitors i am sure? Just ahven;t heard them.

    My solicitor friend deals with all my property transaction at a discount and he is very efficient. Never had any issues.

    Thats just my personal experiences.

    Profile photo of Stella1258Stella1258
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    We used Conveyancing Works on our property that settled 2 weeks ago.
    They were professional, easy to contact, easy to work with & I will be using them again for our next purchase. They gave the same level of service the solicitor we used for our PPOR gave but without the bill.

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