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  • Avatar of pinknic20pinknic20
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    My husband and I want to change the total layout of our exsisting bathroom in our PPOR, has any one done this and what sort of expenses would we be up for? We would like to seperate the bath and shower and add a new vanity also knock down the wall between toilet and bathroom and create more space as one. we would be up for new floor and wall tiles, shower recess, bath toilet and vanity as well as a plumber and an electrician…

    nicole
    Avatar of Scott No MatesScott No Mates
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    Anywhere from $5-$50k depending upon how big, extent of structural works, access to alter existing plumbing, quality & extent of wall and floor finishes.

    I am opinionated. Take me at face value, read between the lines. 
    Avatar of L.A AussieL.A Aussie
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    There are companies that specialise in just bathroom renos.

    Don't know any names; just remember seeig an ad somewhere a while ago.

    Google "bathroom renovations" will get you there.

    Cheers, Marc. erardent@hotmail.com "we get sent lemons; it's up to us to make lemonade"
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    Hi pinknic20,

    I agree with Scott, it can cost anywhere from $5-$50k depending on your taste, style, re-plumbing and amount of labour you want to contribute. My biggest expense on the 2nd was the plumbing work to re-route some plumbing and the 'built-in" toilet which caused my plumber a bit of grief. I have now renovated 2 bathrooms, the first costing under $5000 including pluming and washing machine and the 2nd cost under $10,000 and both looked fantastic and expensive on completion.

    The way i achieved this was primarily 2 ways…. by buying the majority of hardware, (tiles, tapware, shower screens, vanity) at auction and then by doing the 'demolishing' myself. It is quite easy to strip the bathroom yourself. Invest in some good gloves, goggles and dusk masks then buy a cheapish hammer drill from bunnings and go for your life on the tiles. Just be aware of plumbing and electrics when doing so. I purchase the majority of tiles from an auction house. I managed to buy 100×100 glass tiles for $36/square m which retail for anywhere between $100 & $300/m at a tile shop. Most people will tell you to be wary of auction tiles however a lot of the time the stock is still 1st quality its just over supply or liquidation so you can pick up some great stuff. Same with vanities. I purchased a vanity for $250 then when i got it home and unwrapped it, it had a harvey norman sticker inside for $1900!!!

    Long story short, if you want to save money, do the easy (but hardwork) labour yourself, scout auctions and internet such as ebay for good quality bargains and design it yourself. If you have the money, hire a professional to do the lot!!! Places such as domain, harvey norman, reece etc can do obligation free quotes and give you design ideas in the process which can also help. Hope this helps…..

    Avatar of pinknic20pinknic20
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    Thank you for your input, my husband is a cabinet maker so the vanity is covered wasn't to sure where to start with removing the old bath/ shower etc. do you believe renovating the bathroom adds value?

    nicole
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    It cost us $24,000 to do the whole lot.  We didn't do anything.  As ours was a PPOR we got very good quality materials, vanities, toilet bowl etc.  It cost us close to $5,000 just to get the old bathroom removed.

    If it was for an investment property, I wouldn't spend any more than $10,000 as this would get me quite a good renovation.

    Avatar of twowheels_001twowheels_001
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    wow!… i've only budgeted $2000 for mine! my intention is to:

    1. remove the existing bathroom on my own,
    2. knockdown the wall between the bathroom and toilet —  probably do it on my own as well.
    3. buy the new toilet, bathtub  and shower stall from  auction
    4. removing tiles and re-tiling on my own
    5. pay plumber to do the installation.

    is that a fair assumption? it's for investment, i have no intention to spend a lot more than that! ok, maybe a little naive, i'll let you know in about a month!

    Nicole, i've read in many articles that kitchen and bathroom always the first two things to watch out for that adds value, whether it's for investment or for personal. I supposed that varies whether you would spend 5K or 25K. Bottom line is, it's worth it, i think!:)

    Avatar of LalibellaLalibella
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    Hi Nicole, we have just finished our bathroom reno on our PPOR. We did it for just under 10K. No particular budget though. It was a total bare bones job as most are, including removing a wall between the old dunny. A  $250 jack hammer from Aldi was a life saver and worked perfectly. I laboured for a week for the tradies and supplied cash. I would never attempt to tile. What a complex, unforgiving job that is….leave it to the experts. Our splurge was our shower panel, just one peice of glass 1850 high and 1200 long with no door. A real stunner with a water mark pattern through it  (Desert Sand) and coated with Enduro shield. Apparently repels90% of chemicals and keeps the glass looking new.  Good luck!!

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    Avatar of mackayitemackayite
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    Hi Pinknic

    Theres a very important thing to consider when renoing or building bathrooms, and that is the wetsealing.  This is a professionally applied membrane that goes under and around baths and showers and covers the floor so that if the tile grout breaks down, which it eventually does, you dont get water in the subfloor and below, especially important if its a two story house.  Make sure whoever does it is qualified and issues you a certificate on completion.  

    Avatar of pinknic20pinknic20
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    twowheels_001 wrote:
    wow!… i've only budgeted $2000 for mine! my intention is to:

    1. remove the existing bathroom on my own,
    2. knockdown the wall between the bathroom and toilet —  probably do it on my own as well.
    3. buy the new toilet, bathtub  and shower stall from  auction
    4. removing tiles and re-tiling on my own
    5. pay plumber to do the installation.

    is that a fair assumption? it's for investment, i have no intention to spend a lot more than that! ok, maybe a little naive, i'll let you know in about a month!

    Nicole, i've read in many articles that kitchen and bathroom always the first two things to watch out for that adds value, whether it's for investment or for personal. I supposed that varies whether you would spend 5K or 25K. Bottom line is, it's worth it, i think!:)

    hey Twowheels,

    so how did the reno go did you go over budget?

    nicole
    Avatar of Ol PaintingOl Painting
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    I just finished complete bathroom re-wamp. It did cost me 12K plus GST. But this is in remote mining town with labour shortage and building boom, so the price is quite inflated.

     

    We had to re-do everything completely – strip all walls, ceilings, remove floor, even change stamp under the bathroom. We put in completely new plumbing and electrical work, put new floor and walls, ceilings and all fittings – shower bath, vanity, toilet, small laundry sink and plumbing for washing machine, new tiling, door and window frame…

     

    We used very simple fittings and tile, but it looks good and tidy.

    You can check the photos at:

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=30444&l=b1bb6&id=650427872   

    I think is you want to do reno in major city and can keep floors and walls – you can get done something similar in 10K.

     

    Hope this helps

    Cheers, Lesia www.ol-painting.com.au
    Avatar of James007James007
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    Wow 10K for a bathroom seems a lot to me, cant say i have done a bathroom yet but being a Elelctrician i have a few tradie mates who will help out.
    I plan on ripping out the existing shower replacing it with a $200 claw foot bath re tile above bath, re tile above vanity and the boards will be polished.

    Which auction houses do you go to Kiz.?

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    I think it's great that so many people have done the diy bathroom reno ;)

    I'm in the same boat and looking at renovating my bathroom this year. I'm thinking budgeting about 7 or 8k. I've been told that a great way to cut costs is to avoid moving the plumbing where possible (keep toliet, drains, and taps in the same location). So that might be a thought too.

    I see someone has stated it cost about $5000 to remove the old bathroom! I think thats pretty daunting for some of us diy newbies…
    If it's a diy job, from peoples experience, how tricky was it to rip out the old bathroom yourself?

    Avatar of Ol PaintingOl Painting
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    If your reno is in or near the major city – 5K budget should be very reasonably, if you don’t go too fancy. I would still get profs to do most of work.

     

    Keep your design very simple and clean – this way even simple white tile design with a trim looks more sophisticated. Moving plumbing around does add cost.

     

    You can easily remove old tiles. I personally wouldn’t take the bath itself of by myself – I’m not sure I can disconnect it correctly and I can’t carry it out anyway. I can tile walls – but for interstate my reno I hire someone to do it. I then do all finishing work, like hanging a mirror, putting toilet roll, towel holders. And then I do painting.

     

    I tend to hire someone to do most of work in the bathroom. But this is because my renos were a complete revamp and all interstate. There always so much less qualify work I can easily do in other parts of a house.

     

    Check with your traders the price they will pay for material – for tiles, appliances, etc. Then go to the auction and buy everything that you can get chipper.

     

    And one more tip – Don’t buy bath upfront – you might find that the old one is in much better shape then you thought and you can just restore it and have a character feature. In my last two renos I found that bath actually was a claw bath that someone has built a frame around! My renos were in outback mining towns, so restoring them was out of question (eh… Broke my hart…).

    Cheers, Lesia www.ol-painting.com.au
    Avatar of tenorBbtenorBb
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    I did mine for about $2500. Did all the demolition work myself which was only hiring a jackhammer from Kennards, buying the PPE gear and giving my partner 'bribe' money for dinner!!
    Lot of DIY research, books, asking tradies/shop owners little titbits of info…..and mostly keeping it simple.
    I merely retiled the walls from a creme 150 x 250 tile to a white 200 x 200 tile. Nice border tile (200 x 40) at eye level. 200 x 200 floor tiles too. Bought tiles from a tile supplier, (discontinued stock) along with all other 'tools'.
    Paid plumber $75 to weld off the old copper pipes from the old basin, which we gyprocked over the wall cavity.
    My one saving grace was having a JOAT mate who 'got me started'.

    Paul

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    Hi again! James007 i'm in Sydney and use laws auctions at whetherill park for my tiles and vanities. Ebay has been great lately too for shower screens and fittings. $10,000 is not a HUGE amount for a bathroom but you can definately do it cheaper. Plumbing was my biggest cost on the 2nd job as i had to move a lot of the pipework. Nami is correct, the less you move the less it will cost as the rest is just cosmetic. Nami, its not that hard to demolish a bathroom at all. Just be very careful of plumbing pipes and electrical wires when removing the tiles with any type of machinery. I'm an average 30yo female and i have completely stripped 2 now, screed and all!!!  The only thing i needed help with was the very heavy cast iron bathtub but other than that, i did the lot myself. Also make sure you wear a good dust mask, gloves and goggles. Respraying the bath can be a good alternative too as it means even less plumbing. But be aware that to spray still costs around $500 so make sure you get a certificate of warranty as i have friends who have had a bad experience with it. Basically, if you shop around, the fittings and fixtures will be the cheapest part of the fit-out and the trades will be the most expensive. I'm just about to do my 3rd reno and this time im redo-ing one bathroom then completely building a new 2nd one so that should be interesting! In the meantime, if anyone wants b4 and afters of my 2 previous bathrooms for an idea of cost and quality, PM me and i'll be happy to send you some pics :)

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    P.S If you have a BUNNINGS in your area, they conduct DIY workshops for free on the weekends for everything from tiling to decking and pergolas. Great start for anyone new to DIY and even better when its free!

    Avatar of Rodeo 98Rodeo 98
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    Hi Picnic ,

    I have done a few bathrooms , both reno and complete new ones . Your $2000 is probably a bit skinny but not impossible . The important thing is to be practical with the location of the fixtures . Think in advance about the sewer pipe and the drains from the bath ,shower and vanity before you start . Maybe talk to a plumber and get them to quote the job and ask for the most cost effective way and maybe the most  logical way .  It is easier if for example you have a house where you can get access underneath the floor. A concrete floor (slab on ground ) can be more of a pain. Make sure you set the bath into the wall properly . One house I bought  had rot inside the walls from a bath not being set into the wall properly . It was a case of rip the bathroom out to fix all the rot and then put it all back together .

    Good Luck

    Rodeo

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    Thank you for the tips KIZ, very very encouraging… I too am an "average" 30yo female, so it was really good to hear it from someone in the same position

    Yep, been attending those free DIY bunning courses, they are really insightful.

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    I have just bought 2 full bathrooms for $3800, this includes double vanities with granite benchtops, toilets, baths, all tapware and fittings and tiles plus the materials to install. I purchased most of these items from a builders clearance centre, where they sell for 10% – 20% over the cost price. Labour isn't included as my partner will be installing the bathrooms.

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