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Submitted by rudo1ph on March 4, 2010 - 11:18am.

Joined: 22/07/2008

I am looking at buying a property in the UK. I may have the cash to do it, but if I needed a small mortgage, who could I approach about it? Would I need to talk to the banks in the UK or would an Australian bank loan me money?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Rudi

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Terryw's picture

March 4, 2010 - 12:58pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Rudi

You would have to talk to a bank over there. Australian banks wouldn't be able to take it as security - except maybe aussie banks operating in the UK

Terryw
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March 4, 2010 - 12:59pm

Joined: 22/07/2008

thanks for that Terry.

Rudi

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March 4, 2010 - 6:56pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

NAB own Yorkshire Bank and Clydesdale in the UK however operate them totally independantly.

Why not try someone like John Charcoal.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


March 5, 2010 - 11:11pm

Joined: 21/02/2010

NAB or ANZ; private / business banking. One lender takes the security and issues a standby LC (bank to bank guarantee) in favor of the other bank. e.g. bank in UK takes the property as security and guarantees the Australia bank.

The bank in Australia then has the guarantee as security. This is often as good as a Term Deposit. If the standby LC and the loan are in the same currency you can borrow up to 100%. If the currency is different you will have a lower LVR and potential margin calls.

Min loan $1.0M
Min net income $250k
Min net assets $2.0M

More common in the Asian markets e.g. ANZ Singaporeans buying Aust property. If they are different banks you will need to convince the overseas bank that you can service their debt if the guarantee is called upon. ANZ to ANZ not a problem however they specialise in asian markets - not sure about the UK.

In the current market - good luck but I would look for something else. If you meet the 3 bullet points above you will need to put down approx $25,000 as a fee for credit assessment - not refundable if declined.  


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March 6, 2010 - 12:19am

Joined: 23/08/2003

If you meet the 3 bullet points above you will need to put down approx $25,000 as a fee for credit assessment

Or as i said you could approach John Charcoal and then wont charge you anything.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


March 6, 2010 - 9:55am

Joined: 21/02/2010

Yes Richard - using someone in the uk is far cheaper in this example. Just explaining how it works, the critera and cost to expect to do it in oz. Gives readers the ability to strike a line through the Aussie option - and understand why it's not viable.

Worth pointing out for a larger client with trade relationships already establised (preferably an importer or exporter) - an LC can be as cheap as a few hundred dollars. Therefore this select group of people have the advantage of being able to invest offshore through an Aussie bank.

There are similar advantages to clients that do business in US dollars . E.g. If you have a $US dollar account with your Aussie bank you can get a loan or Overdraft at US rates.

Moral of the the storey - you have 40 properties. Find something to import Or export to or from the US. If you can generate significant income or expense in $US you can get you loans switched to US currency ( a trade finance banker will understand there is logic in having your loans in the currentcy you get paid in).

This is the overseas investment part of the forum isn't it -

Banker


Qlds007's picture

March 6, 2010 - 1:59pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Very true and totally agree but most of the forum readers probably wouldnt qualify.

Thankfully as i only have loans on less than 15 of my properties now and whilst i still earn an income from  UK wouldnt go to the trouble of a LC.

Point taken but not for your average small investor.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


May 16, 2010 - 8:45am

Joined: 15/05/2010

Hello,

If you are still interested in a UK mortgage, please contact me.  I have a contact in the UK that specialises in this area.

Regards,

Steve
email: info@gvimortgages.com


November 17, 2010 - 1:27pm

Joined: 17/11/2010

G'day

I am an American who has been living in Australia for the last 15 years.  I am thinking about trying to buy  a bank owned or foreclosed home in the USA as an investment. I rang our bank to ask them if they had any other clients that invested in overseas properties but they told me NO, that THEY DON'T HOLD SECURITIES ON ANY PROPERTIES OVERSEAS. 

Now I am wondering why won't Australian banks hold securities on properties overseas?

Does anybody out there know the reason for this?

 I am just curious that's all.


November 17, 2010 - 3:52pm

Joined: 15/01/2010

paulashorse wrote:
G'day

I am an American who has been living in Australia for the last 15 years.  I am thinking about trying to buy  a bank owned or foreclosed home in the USA as an investment. I rang our bank to ask them if they had any other clients that invested in overseas properties but they told me NO, that THEY DON'T HOLD SECURITIES ON ANY PROPERTIES OVERSEAS. 

Now I am wondering why won't Australian banks hold securities on properties overseas?

Does anybody out there know the reason for this?

 I am just curious that's all.

Easy answer would be its just to hard as most Aussie Banks have little knowledge or expertise in the US/OS Market i.e. NAB got rather burnt in the late 90's / early 2000's with their Homeside Lending venture.
Also from only the little I hear or take note of the US property market at the moment may not be considered stable or positive
and Aussie Banks do tend to be conservative in their residential lending policies

Also the legalities could be complex (expensive) i.e.:

A debt in Australia with security being overseas, some jurisdictions overseas may not recognise proof of debt in another country which may be required (as it is in Aust) to exercise power of sale, cost of legal expertise involving international law would be cost prohibitve

In some US states having no recourse mortgages, Banks may foreclose but can't recover any shortfalls


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