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Submitted by PGB on March 12, 2010 - 9:28am.

Joined: 15/05/2007

I would like to sign a contract to purchase a house in Queensland today, but my trust will not be ready until mid next week. Can I use "John Smith as nominee" then substitute my trust name before settlement without incurring a second set of stamp duty fees?


jamesbethurem's picture

March 12, 2010 - 10:39am

Joined: 09/03/2010

Sorry, am unfamiliar with this.


Qlds007's picture

March 12, 2010 - 11:12am

Joined: 23/08/2003

Hi PGB no regetfully you cannot.

A Trust would normally only take 24 hours to be set up. 

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
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March 12, 2010 - 12:02pm

Joined: 15/05/2007

Richard
Thanks for that, the trust is ready but I am using a company as trustee and that is the slow down. I will just have hold off on signing a contract.
Cheers
pgb


Qlds007's picture

March 12, 2010 - 1:33pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

PGB yes hate to say you will.

In saying this again the Company only takes 24 hours to set up and be registered.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


March 12, 2010 - 1:58pm

Joined: 15/05/2007

Richard
It was an old trading company I had and have to amend constitution to become a trustee company. I will wait.

thanks again
pgb


Terryw's picture

March 12, 2010 - 8:01pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

If the company is in existance it may be possible, but a guess the constitution probihits acting as trustee? For the cost of a company, $400, I would be setting up a new one anyway - that way no problems from the past can arise.

A trust can be set up in a  few minutes too. You have a few weeks to pay the stamp duty.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


Qlds007's picture

March 13, 2010 - 2:39am

Joined: 23/08/2003

I am with Terry i am not sure i would want to use an old trading company as the Trustee of Trust that i was intending to buy property assets in.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


Qlds007's picture

March 13, 2010 - 2:40am

Joined: 23/08/2003

I am with Terry i am not sure i would want to use an old trading company as the Trustee of Trust that i was intending to buy property assets in.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


Qlds007's picture

March 13, 2010 - 2:40am

Joined: 23/08/2003

I am with Terry i am not sure i would want to use an old trading company as the Trustee of Trust that i was intending to buy property assets in.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


March 13, 2010 - 4:16pm

Joined: 15/05/2007

Sorry for the delay in response. I was away form the computer looking at properties. I take your advice on old companies, I have a little experience and I know that the company has never traded and have replaced the Mem & Articles with a new Constitution at a total cost of $180.00. The advice you gave was wise, I delayed signing and found a better property today :-)

regards
pgb


Nathan Birch's picture

March 17, 2010 - 4:06pm

Joined: 27/03/2004

I exchanged recently on a few in QLD and added special condition along with finance that I have the right to change purchase details before settlement. Check with your solicitor however.

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Nathan Birch's picture

March 17, 2010 - 4:06pm

Joined: 27/03/2004

I exchanged recently on a few in QLD and added special condition along with finance that I have the right to change purchase details before settlement. Check with your solicitor however.

Nathan Birch - W: www.nathanbirch.com.au E: nathan@nathanbirch.com.au
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March 17, 2010 - 4:38pm

Joined: 15/05/2007

Nathan
Thanks for that info, sounds very useful, I will meet with my solicitor to discuss
regards
pgb


Terryw's picture

March 17, 2010 - 4:46pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Nathan_b wrote:
I exchanged recently on a few in QLD and added special condition along with finance that I have the right to change purchase details before settlement. Check with your solicitor however.

The vendor may allow this without too much drama, but please be careful in doing it as you may be assessed on stamp duty twice. You may also have problems if you set up an entity after the original contract was signed too - ie the entity wasn't in existance when the contract was entered into.

BEst to check with a solicitor before doing anything like this.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


March 17, 2010 - 4:53pm

Joined: 15/05/2007

Terry
I was aware that if the entity was created after the contract date that I would have a problem, but it was the stamp duty double up that I was trying to avoid. I will ask my solicitor
thanks
pgb


Terryw's picture

March 17, 2010 - 6:09pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

The OSR may consider it an onsale to the nominee, I head that WA is very strict on this, but each State differs - which makes it hard to keep up with things. Let us know what your lawyer says.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


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