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Submitted by Don. on October 14, 2008 - 11:05am.

Joined: 15/02/2005

The gov't will announce the doubling of the first home owners grant today for new and old homes. What will this mean for homes in your area in a low interest rate environment.

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Don.'s picture

October 14, 2008 - 12:16pm

Joined: 15/02/2005

Make that a triple of the first home buyers grant!!!

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October 14, 2008 - 2:48pm

Joined: 03/08/2008

It's triple for new homes and double for established. I think it is madness, even being eligible.


cyfmike's picture

October 14, 2008 - 3:08pm

Joined: 29/07/2008

It is really a good news to me. As I am a first home buyer and I pulled out last week from a deal after found it had serious termite attacked before. I did lost 1600 for the whole process.


October 14, 2008 - 3:28pm

Joined: 02/07/2008

Great for me

Put in an offer for a home 6 months ago that was rejected. The house ended up selling for less then my first offer

Now looking to purchase in 2 - 3 months time when prices have fallen a little more


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October 14, 2008 - 4:11pm

Joined: 14/10/2008

I don't own a property but am in a position to buy very soon so this is very encouraging news that is tending me more and more so towards property over shares.

Can i ask a stupid question? I know it is silly but i just want to be absolutely sure about this.

The government  is giving a grant for houses. Are apartments considered houses? Subsequently are they eligible for the grant too?


October 14, 2008 - 4:12pm

Joined: 25/06/2008

Does anyone know when the payments will increase?  Is it from today


October 14, 2008 - 5:14pm

Joined: 24/02/2006

jeffreycarig wrote:

The government  is giving a grant for houses. Are apartments considered houses? Subsequently are they eligible for the grant too?

They certainly are eligible Jeffrey; it's a first home owner's grant, not a first house owners grant.


October 14, 2008 - 5:26pm

Joined: 24/02/2006

gibbo1 wrote:
Does anyone know when the payments will increase?  Is it from today

This is all I've been able to find so far Gibbo:

The first-home buyers scheme will be time limited. All contracts entered into by June 30 next year will be eligible for the new assistance.
It implies that any new contracts started as of now will be eligible, but it may be a bit rough for anybody who signed one yesterday.


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October 14, 2008 - 6:00pm

Joined: 01/04/2005

Whoa that changes things :) We have two properties to go on the market this weekend - maybe best to hold off in case this news brings a mini boom.......

CHeers,
Matt


October 14, 2008 - 6:52pm

Joined: 14/10/2008

man ! that sucks !  I signed a contract 2 weeks ago !

Surely they could have back dated it to include contracts for this financial year !  This is biased against people who have bought first properties already !

This ucks !

Cheers

wian


October 14, 2008 - 7:17pm

Joined: 03/08/2008

mattjones wrote:
Whoa that changes things :) We have two properties to go on the market this weekend - maybe best to hold off in case this news brings a mini boom.......

CHeers,
Matt

Which is exactly what worries me with it.

It's a get in quick deal. Does everyone realise that the 21K expires at the end of this FY and the 14K too? From July 1 next year its back to 7K all around. Sell, sell, sell and put 7K on top. Build, build, build and put 14K on top. You've got 9 months to get a loan or make some cash.

I realise that construction needs a boost and fully support doubling the grant for new home buyers - even tripling (though that is pushing it) but the established home buyers grant should have been left alone.

I fear this will create a mini boom from now until June 2009 and that the resultant drops and possible foreclosure rate to follow it may be devestating. We weren't quite as bad as America with it's subprime (even though our prices are more over-valued) but after this...


October 14, 2008 - 8:36pm

Joined: 16/07/2007

Not sure if i am able to get this extra grant or not,
I paid .25% to the agent to hold the property,  my 10 day cooling off period expires tomorrow, i have not yet paid the full 10% deposit.

So any views as to whether i might get this extra $7k  grant.


October 14, 2008 - 8:45pm

Joined: 05/10/2008

trustieone wrote:
Not sure if i am able to get this extra grant or not,
I paid .25% to the agent to hold the property,  my 10 day cooling off period expires tomorrow, i have not yet paid the full 10% deposit.

So any views as to whether i might get this extra $7k  grant.

Did you place a STF clause in the contract?

Have your banker write a letter to say you have been declined for finance.  You will not lose any money.


October 14, 2008 - 8:47pm

Joined: 14/10/2008

is there any way you can legally change the date of the contract if you havent settled yet?  Also, does this grant apply for the settlement date, or the date you put down yr 10% deposit ?

cheers


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October 14, 2008 - 9:16pm

Joined: 14/10/2008

hmmm a few people have been asking (wian & trustieone) about backdating and wondering if they are eligible for the 14k grant since it has been introduced after their transaction processes were started.

Have you guys lodged your applications yet? If not, then since you bought your properties after 2000 the date the ACT was introduced my thoughts are that you would be eligible for the 14k!

Am i correct? Also, the application says that you are not allowed to apply if you have already lodged an application however if you have lodged an application and canceled and given the money of the grant back then you may apply again. Although i am sure you will probably only be allowed to cancel with good reason.

Just some thoughts,

Jeff


October 14, 2008 - 9:21pm

Joined: 05/10/2008

You could also slip the vendor $1000 cash to mutually cancel the contract, then resign a new one with the same settlement date.


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October 14, 2008 - 9:25pm

Joined: 07/10/2004

wallyt99 wrote:
You could also slip the vendor $1000 cash to mutually cancel the contract, then resign a new one with the same settlement date.

Beautiful


October 14, 2008 - 9:30pm

Joined: 25/06/2008

some vendors may want to get greedy and slit the difference 50/50


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October 14, 2008 - 9:31pm

Joined: 07/10/2004

still a goer but wait fellow tax payer is this moral ?


October 14, 2008 - 10:50pm

Joined: 14/10/2008

bardon wrote:
still a goer but wait fellow tax payer is this moral ?

Hehe ! i love the irony in this comment !  There are only 2 certainties in life - Death and Taxes !  hehe !  I personally dont think that stamp duty is moral - ( Especially in Victoria )

my situation is that i signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and the form has been lodged with the state revenue office

I am speaking to my bank manager tomorrow - hopefully, i may be able to get around it

cheers

Wian


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