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Submitted by PropertySeeker on December 27, 2011 - 9:35am.

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Hi everyone,

If I use my LOC to make repayments to a mortgage would the interest on that portion be tax deductible?

Thanks
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December 27, 2011 - 9:52am

Joined: 01/01/2002

Depends on many factors such as the reason for doing this.

Regards

Terryw


December 27, 2011 - 12:09pm

Joined: 25/02/2010

I also have similar question , I have a PPOR & IP , can i pay all the rent i receive to the PPOR , and take out another LOC and pay for the IP loan ? will this be allowed for tax purpose?


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December 27, 2011 - 1:01pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Mayuran wrote:
I also have similar question , I have a PPOR & IP , can i pay all the rent i receive to the PPOR , and take out another LOC and pay for the IP loan ? will this be allowed for tax purpose?

Again, would depend on the situation and purpose. Why would you want to structure it that way?

Regards

Terryw


December 27, 2011 - 4:37pm

Joined: 25/02/2010

Terryw wrote:
Mayuran wrote:
I also have similar question , I have a PPOR & IP , can i pay all the rent i receive to the PPOR , and take out another LOC and pay for the IP loan ? will this be allowed for tax purpose?

Again, would depend on the situation and purpose. Why would you want to structure it that way?

So that i can reduce the interest on PPOR loan , which cannot be deducted against my income ...


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December 27, 2011 - 4:53pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Mayuran wrote:
Terryw wrote:
Mayuran wrote:
I also have similar question , I have a PPOR & IP , can i pay all the rent i receive to the PPOR , and take out another LOC and pay for the IP loan ? will this be allowed for tax purpose?

Again, would depend on the situation and purpose. Why would you want to structure it that way?

So that i can reduce the interest on PPOR loan , which cannot be deducted against my income ...

In that case the interest on the LOC would likely NOT be deductible. see:
TD 2011/D8

Income tax: does a taxpayer's purpose of 'paying their home loan off sooner' mean that Part IVA of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1936 cannot apply to an 'investment loan interest payment arrangement' of the type described in this Taxation Determination?
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=%22DXT%2FTD2011D8%2FNAT%2FATO%2F00001%22

Regards

Terryw


December 27, 2011 - 5:11pm

Joined: 25/02/2010

Terryw wrote:
Mayuran wrote:
Terryw wrote:
Mayuran wrote:
I also have similar question , I have a PPOR & IP , can i pay all the rent i receive to the PPOR , and take out another LOC and pay for the IP loan ? will this be allowed for tax purpose?

Again, would depend on the situation and purpose. Why would you want to structure it that way?

So that i can reduce the interest on PPOR loan , which cannot be deducted against my income ...

In that case the interest on the LOC would likely NOT be deductible. see:
TD 2011/D8

Income tax: does a taxpayer's purpose of 'paying their home loan off sooner' mean that Part IVA of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1936 cannot apply to an 'investment loan interest payment arrangement' of the type described in this Taxation Determination?
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=%22DXT%2FTD2011D8%2FNAT%2FATO%2F00001%22

Thanks Terryw

you are great!


Terryw's picture

December 27, 2011 - 6:19pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

But, there may still be ways to do what you want to do, so don't give up.

It may also be wise to apply for a private ruling..

Regards

Terryw


December 27, 2011 - 8:23pm

Joined: 25/02/2010

Terryw wrote:
But, there may still be ways to do what you want to do, so don't give up.

It may also be wise to apply for a private ruling..

How do i do that?
Mayuran


Terryw's picture

December 27, 2011 - 9:56pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

The law says that interest in deductible if the funds borrowed are used for investment purposes. The ATO has also confirmed that interest on interest would be deductible where the original borrowings is for investment purposes. But they have said in TD 2011/D8 that they will disallow the deduction on the capitalised interest if the dominant purpose if to pay off your own home loan sooner. They do this under Part IVA of the ITAA 1936 if you are doing something with the dominant purpose of obtaining a deduction.

Therefore, you could be able to claim a deduction if the reason if the dominant purpose was not to claim an extra tax deduction but for other reasons. One reason that may be applicable could be for cashflow.

So in order to be safe if could be a good idea to apply to the ATO for a private ruling, outlining your situation and the reasons for doing this and then asking would the interest on the LOC be deductible?

You can apply for a private ruling by doing it yourself, search the ATO website, or using a tax advisor.

Regards

Terryw


December 28, 2011 - 8:10am

Joined: 10/11/2010

Mayuran,I have already set it up and it works fine.Spoke to accountant,and like Terry has said that LOC should be only used for investment.As soon as you mix it for your personnal use then ATO will question you.

you can send me an e-mail  and can foward you the structure which I have set up.

Mike


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