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Submitted by pjovanovski on March 2, 2010 - 9:00pm.

Joined: 28/02/2010

Hi guys,

I want to run down my situation and let people make comment on what I should do moving forward.
My wife have and 2 properties.
First Property we live in and it is worth 340,000 with 170,000 owing on the loan and the second is an investment property (negatively geared) which is worth 440,000 and owing 370,000.
The houses are in both our names and what we would like to do is begin investing into more properties.

My questions are:
1. Are there tax benefits of using both properties equity to buy a third?
2. Should we be restructuring our current accounts to get the most out of tax?
3. What type of loan would be best applicable for us?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Pande


Terryw's picture

March 3, 2010 - 12:40pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

1. Tax benefits depend on the use of the property and not the security.
2. Yes. You could make some improvements and save more tax.
3. You would need a few different ones. IO for the investment, IO/PI for the main residence with a 100% offset account attached. An interest free credit card with points and a LOC for spare equity on the main residence.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


Qlds007's picture

March 5, 2010 - 11:08pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

When you are restructuring as Terry has suggested you might also be wise to uncross the 2 properties as looking at the numbers you have presented i can only assume the are tied together. 

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


March 5, 2010 - 11:22pm

Joined: 21/02/2010

Terryw wrote:
1. Tax benefits depend on the use of the property and not the security.

The property is the security. I think he means the purpose of funds :-)

e.g. if the purpose of the property is investment - and the purpose of funds in personal - the later is the more important.


Terryw's picture

March 6, 2010 - 9:14am

Joined: 01/01/2002

Ooops.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


March 6, 2010 - 9:59am

Joined: 21/02/2010

We knew what you meant :-)


Qlds007's picture

March 6, 2010 - 1:54pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Terry first error you have made in 9 years and 8572 posts we will let you off.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


YoungInvestor's picture

March 6, 2010 - 7:58pm

Joined: 25/11/2003

RIch,

If you now make one as well, then I forecast the property market to crash at least 20% by the end of the year...

Regards,
YI

"Knowledge is Power"


Qlds007's picture

March 6, 2010 - 10:23pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Wow better watch myself.

Next thing i will be telling everyone how good cross collateralising is.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


YoungInvestor's picture

March 6, 2010 - 10:57pm

Joined: 25/11/2003

If I'm not mistaken, someone already took care of that on your behalf in another forum :)

Regards,
YI

"Knowledge is Power"


March 6, 2010 - 11:40pm

Joined: 21/02/2010

Ah yes, cross collateralisation. My topic. I knew I'd ruffle a few feathers. Yes yes yes. Stand by my claim that you can settle a deal with no supporting paperwork through relationship management Chanels - customers can even get their docs printed while they wait at the first appointment - if rp data vL stacks up. - Like to see you try and settle a deal wihin a dew days when equity is spread between a bunch of non banks...


YoungInvestor's picture

March 7, 2010 - 1:21am

Joined: 25/11/2003

Hi Banker,

I wasn't having a go at the X Coll discussion, just making a comment.

I often get finance arranged for clients within a couple of days, so I agree with your point on relationship management.

Once in a blue moon I actually attend a settlement myself depending on the client and the urgency!

Regards,
YI

"Knowledge is Power"


Qlds007's picture

March 7, 2010 - 1:17pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Guys lets agree to disagree.

The next thing is The Mortgage Detective will be back (think he only last 3 weeks) and we can re-open other cans of worms.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


YoungInvestor's picture

March 7, 2010 - 3:06pm

Joined: 25/11/2003

Who is the Mortgage Detective? He sounds smart

Regards,
YI

"Knowledge is Power"


Qlds007's picture

March 7, 2010 - 3:36pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

A member who arrived trying to sell his book and services and spent the 3 weeks he was here trying to argue every post Terry and I answered telling members to protect themselves.

Claimed he was the Mortgage Detective but when i queries the name (as it is used by a Mortgage Broking firm in ACT) he couldnt come up with an answer. Left here arrived over at Sommersoft for a few weeks and then thankfully disappeared.

Richard Taylor - richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au Tel: 07 3720 1888
Residential Mortgage Broker providing structured home loan advice for investors and owner occupiers all over Australia.
Thinking of buying your next investment property using a SMSF. Email me for a copy of my SMSF EBook.


Investors Zorba's picture

March 7, 2010 - 5:25pm

Joined: 12/06/2009

Terryw wrote:
1. Tax benefits depend on the use of the property and not the security.
2. Yes. You could make some improvements and save more tax.
3. You would need a few different ones. IO for the investment, IO/PI for the main residence with a 100% offset account attached. An interest free credit card with points and a LOC for spare equity on the main residence.

Intrest free credit card  yes please !!


Terryw's picture

March 7, 2010 - 7:26pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Yes, me too - but they are only interest free for the month, then if you don't pay in full on time.....

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


YoungInvestor's picture

March 7, 2010 - 7:45pm

Joined: 25/11/2003

They are an interest free product for anyone with a full balance direct debit option (assuming you don't go over the limit!)

All mine does it pay utility bills etc so I can leave the cash sitting in my offset account for an extra 30 days or so - And apparently I receive reward points for using the bank's money to save myself interest?

Used correctly and to their full potential, the credit card is a wonderful thing, and can be very beneficial to anyone with any kind of debt.

Anyhow... way off topic - Sorry :)

Regards,
YI

"Knowledge is Power"


Terryw's picture

March 7, 2010 - 7:56pm

Joined: 01/01/2002

Imagine the benefits when you have 100 properties and you are paying rates etc = bonus interest saved off your loans and think of all the points.

Terryw
Finance Broker
Solicitor


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