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Can't get LMI for loan on high density property purchase

Submitted by smain_1@hotmail.com on July 3, 2008 - 1:54pm.

Joined: 29/08/2007

I have found a property i wish to make an offer on but have not proceeded as Bankwest cannot get LMI for the Loan. My broker has advised that the mortgage insurer has reached their limit of exposure in the apartment block. I could go with another bank who uses a different mortgage insurer but this would come at a the cost of higher interest rates.

My broker has now advised that i look at low density apartments only to avoid being rejected LMI

I have 10-15% deposit... do i have any other options?

Thanks!



July 3, 2008 - 6:41pm

Joined: 04/04/2008

Just try the lender that written their own LMI.


Qlds007's picture

July 3, 2008 - 7:20pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Your Broker is correct the Bank and the MI will have a max number of units in any 1 block  they will insure.

Guess question would be why are you looking at going through Bank West whilst their special offer appears attractive on the surface from my experience you will have issues down the track.

Some of the other lenders have an auto approval policy when it comes to LMI which avoid this issue.

Would need to know more about what you are after to comment further.

Cheers

Yours in Finance
Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 7.83%


Qlds007's picture

July 3, 2008 - 7:23pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Your Broker is correct the Bank and the MI will have a max number of units in any 1 block  they will insure.

Guess question would be why are you looking at going through Bank West whilst their special offer appears attractive on the surface from my experience you will have issues down the track.

Some of the other lenders have an auto approval policy when it comes to LMI which avoid this issue.

Would need to know more about what you are after to comment further.

Cheers

Yours in Finance
Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 7.83%


Shaun M Smith's picture

July 3, 2008 - 8:18pm

Joined: 23/06/2008

To mind BankWest utilises the services of PMI for mortgage insurance purposes. The other major mortgage insurer in the industry is Genworth. The majority of lenders use one or both of these. Outside of this both St George Bank and Westpac both self-insure.

I am surprised your broker is unable to offer a solution.

Regards

Shaun Smith | Managing Director | CDS Financial Services
Direct: +612 9153 0333 | F: 1300 732 388 | M: 0419 330 778
E: shaun.smith@cdsfinancial.com.au | W:www.cdsfinancial.com.au


July 6, 2008 - 10:27pm

Joined: 29/05/2008

Richard and Shaun are right. Your broker should have been able to offer you a couple of different options.

If you would like to find out more, just email me and I will be happy to provide you with an idea on how to solve your issue.

Tim O'Shea
Mortgage Plus
mortgageplus2007@gmail.com
0419774487
Residential, Investment, Commercial, Development and Non Conforming Finance.


Qlds007's picture

July 6, 2008 - 10:29pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Smain
Thanks for your email, glad we could have been of assistance.

Cheers

Yours in Finance
Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 7.83%


July 24, 2008 - 11:19pm

Joined: 24/07/2008

Hi Smain,

Personally i love bankwest, but if you cant go through the banks try Widebay they have no problem with high density loans.

Good Luck


July 25, 2008 - 12:03am

Joined: 24/06/2008

Was speaking to a ANZ BDM the other day and they said they now self insure and then have a blanket cover for any "major incidents"


Qlds007's picture

July 25, 2008 - 8:33am

Joined: 23/08/2003

Anz have self insured through PMI for as long as i have been in Oz.

Cheers

Yours in Finance
Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 7.83%


July 25, 2008 - 8:59am

Joined: 29/05/2008

Not to split hairs with you Richard, but if ANZ insure through PMI, thats not 'Self Insuring'. If ANZ insure through ANZ, that is self insuring.
In  an instance where funders 'Self Insure', they will generally charge a Risk Fee as a substitute for an LMI premium. Risk Fee is usually 30-50% cheaper than LMI.

Tim O'Shea
Mortgage Plus
mortgageplus2007@gmail.com
0419774487
Residential, Investment, Commercial, Development and Non Conforming Finance.


Qlds007's picture

July 25, 2008 - 11:12am

Joined: 23/08/2003

Tim

You are right we wont split hairs as I am not aware of any lender that has a Risk Fee which is 50% cheaper than the equivalent LMI premium.

.

Cheers

Yours in Finance
Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 7.83%


July 25, 2008 - 11:56am

Joined: 29/05/2008


LOAN AMOUNT $499K    RISK FEE                MORTGAGE INSURANCE         Saving


85% Regulated             $399                 $4,958                             92%

ING Banks Self Insure, with the above risk fee applicable. Not a bad saving. The results vary, but it is cheaper to go no LMI if you meet the policy.

And now you know.

 

 

 

 


Tim O'Shea
Mortgage Plus
mortgageplus2007@gmail.com
0419774487
Residential, Investment, Commercial, Development and Non Conforming Finance.


July 25, 2008 - 12:23pm

Joined: 20/03/2002

Ahoy Qlds007
in this thread you mentioned...
"Guess question would be why are you looking at going through Bank West whilst their special offer appears attractive on the surface from my experience you will have issues down the track."  
that sent a bit of a shiver up me spine, as i have loan with Bankwest... can you please expand on the ....'issues down the track bit"...with much thanks
SilverSurfer


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