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Submitted by sumnerstephen on March 15, 2008 - 11:51am.

Joined: 28/02/2007

Hi all. Has anyone heard of Premium Finance? I've just had a cold call from them offering to send a consultant to show me how I can access a $6500 tax rebate for mortgage payments (no obligations). Some new government incentive. I'm still curious as to how they make their money.

Any comments appreciated.



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March 15, 2008 - 9:32pm

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March 18, 2008 - 8:31am

Joined: 21/04/2004

Hi Stephen

Listen to what they have to say and then put it on the forum.  It sounds like they are just offering something that you can get through any mortgage broker , but you never know, it may be something new that not many people know about.

Cheers

K


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March 18, 2008 - 10:10pm

Joined: 24/09/2005

Are they tax advisors? Probably not. Sounds like yet another 'morgage reducion' type scheme that gets 'sold' for several thousand dollars, when any switched on lender (or switched on business person or relative or mentor) should help you with for zip.....Keep us posted but please be cautious.


March 19, 2008 - 12:18pm

Joined: 28/02/2007

Meeting the consultant tonight. I'll keep you guys posted. I managed to find the website and actually rang the customer services to try and get a better idea of what they do.http://www.premiumfinance.com.au


March 19, 2008 - 12:19pm

Joined: 05/08/2004

sumnerstephen wrote:
Hi all. Has anyone heard of Premium Finance? I've just had a cold call from them offering to send a consultant to show me how I can access a $6500 tax rebate for mortgage payments (no obligations). Some new government incentive. I'm still curious as to how they make their money.

Any comments appreciated.

The fact that they quoted a dollar amount for a tax saving without knowing your financials would suggest a meeting will be a complete waste of time. People are always looking for some secret that will put them ahead of the pack, so making claims such as this is good marketing, but there is no way they will have better knowledge of potential tax deductions than any decent accountant. I would go further though and say there is a 99.9% chance that they will know less. 

I remember speaking to a forum member some time ago who had received advice on structuring their loans from one of the many debt reduction companies out there, and what was proposed to this person was blatant tax evasion. 

I should note that I know nothing about Premium Finance, they might be fantastic, but from the sales pitch I doubt it.

Regards
Alistair

 


March 19, 2008 - 9:27pm

Joined: 28/02/2007

Well I can now give you some feedback. The service they offer is all about creating a strategy to reduce personal debt, access better tax benefits  and hence have more money to invest in property. (I think the whole $6500 tax rebate mentioned on the phone was just an inexperienced telephonist). Where they make their money is on the commission from any  future products you get through them (Apparently they can get better rates on anything from mortgages to house insurance).
One other cost is the $295 now which will get us a day with at their office in Melbourne to personalise our strategy. This actually includes flights there (for us from Perth) and accommodation.  Even if we don't even use any of their information, return flights for  two of us + accom for $295 total isn't a bad deal.


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March 19, 2008 - 9:49pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

I am with Alistair they maybe wonderful but anyone who charges upfront for a residential  mortgage brokering service linked to debt reduction is taking advantage of you.

I tell you what for half that amount I would do it through in a Financial Plan and provide you with a free email monitoring service for the first 12 months.

Seriously how can someone tell you over the phone they can save you $6500 of Tax rebates.

The quicker these tele marketing companies are out of business the better.

Cheers

Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
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March 20, 2008 - 2:56pm

Joined: 28/02/2007

Thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback.


May 2, 2008 - 2:02pm

Joined: 02/05/2008

Proof is in the Pudding...

Hi There, I actually designed Premium Finance's Web Site. I also purchased a property through them at Nundah in Brisbane. Since then, it has had about $30k in capital growth. I couldn't be happier! I am about to purchase my second property through them too. Since making their web site, I have got to know a few of the people in their office. All that I have met are great people, that work FOR their clients and their clients, including me, are well looked after.

They way I look at it is that YOU CAN learn about property investing and finance yourself.... hell, I can learn about ANYTHING.. it just takes time. One thing over the years that I have learned, is to use professionals! It doesn't matter if it is an electrician, personal trainer or even property investing.

Premium Finance's staff are qualified too.

For those of you on this message board wondering about Premium Finance, I have no hesitation in recommending them. They have served me extremely well. There are good and bad in EVERY industry.... these are the good guys.

Hope this helps,
Ben W


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May 2, 2008 - 2:26pm

Joined: 23/08/2003

Thanks Ben

Premium Finance's staff are qualified too - Can you tell what they are qualified as ?

Cheers

Richard Taylor
Residential & Commercial Finance Broker.
Licensed Financial Planner. Ph: 07 3720 1888
www.tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au
richard@tayloredfinancialsolutions.com.au.
Lodoc loans from 8.77%


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May 2, 2008 - 2:41pm

Joined: 15/12/2007

Proof is in the Pudding...

Hi There, I actually designed Premium Finance's Web Site.

Well as an empolyee you would give that glowing reference.I will tell you how my experience went.It was all above board until the documemts were signed.Then it went south.After near 3 months of chasing them to get information on were the contracts were at( had signed did not recieve copy) and due there being issues with the builder I then rang the bank broking agent they were using.Guess what there was an issue with the valuation.It wasnt until I recieved this info that low and behold I get a call from premium at night saying there had been an issue with the original documents,and that the sale was valid and unconditional.Of course I hit the roof.They then offered to get another property due to the valuation not coming up to the expectation of the bank.

Promises where made and not delivered.It was like it was a mission to get anyting done.Like the new property information etc.

However I do not directly blame Premium,except the employee who stuffed the original application with the council,that they seem to know what they are doing, it is the 3rd parties that are involved.It is now nearly 6 months and I am still waiting for my deposit.

They did sort my finances,that i cannot dispute.

At the end of the day it is my experience,more than likey there have been good outcomes for other people.Make up your own mind.

Thanks Jonesy

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May 15, 2008 - 8:08pm

Joined: 15/05/2008

Hi All
I went serching to find out more about Premium Finance, My Wife Anne and I did the $295 trip to Melbourne
and months later, after lots and lots of stuff-ups, The whole thing has gone terribly wrong. I won't write more about this yet because I Intend to give them the chance to fix the problems. Cheers Annican.


May 27, 2008 - 10:12am

Joined: 15/05/2008

Premium managed to sort out the few problems we had, and I have been very satisfied with there approach toward the customer
This is a great setup if you want someone to do the work for you but probably costs a little more. All in all I have found Premium to be a reputable company with a good product.


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May 28, 2008 - 8:18pm

Joined: 03/12/2006

 Annican great first post, what section of the company do you work for?


June 12, 2008 - 1:23pm

Joined: 12/06/2008

Can anyone confirm having to pay an initial $5000 fee to become a client prior to using Premium finances refinancing or purchasing services.
I would just like to check that everyone has had to pay this or is it  just me.  Its not mentioned anywhere on the website or during the phone conversations, only at the very end of the visit to the office.  Has everyone had to pay this or am I getting the wool pulled over my eyes.
All responses will be appreciated.
PM me if you wish although I see no harm in making this information public.


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June 12, 2008 - 2:21pm

Joined: 03/12/2006

bennyw wrote:
Proof is in the Pudding...

Hi There, I actually designed Premium Finance's Web Site. I also purchased a property through them at Nundah in Brisbane. Since then, it has had about $30k in capital growth. I couldn't be happier! I am about to purchase my second property through them too. Since making their web site, I have got to know a few of the people in their office. All that I have met are great people, that work FOR their clients and their clients, including me, are well looked after.

They way I look at it is that YOU CAN learn about property investing and finance yourself.... hell, I can learn about ANYTHING.. it just takes time. One thing over the years that I have learned, is to use professionals! It doesn't matter if it is an electrician, personal trainer or even property investing.

Premium Finance's staff are qualified too.

For those of you on this message board wondering about Premium Finance, I have no hesitation in recommending them. They have served me extremely well. There are good and bad in EVERY industry.... these are the good guys.

Hope this helps,
Ben W

first post... sounds like an ad..


June 19, 2008 - 1:00am

Joined: 10/02/2008

SteveJ wrote:
Can anyone confirm having to pay an initial $5000 fee to become a client prior to using Premium finances refinancing or purchasing services.
I would just like to check that everyone has had to pay this or is it  just me.  Its not mentioned anywhere on the website or during the phone conversations, only at the very end of the visit to the office.  Has everyone had to pay this or am I getting the wool pulled over my eyes.
All responses will be appreciated.
PM me if you wish although I see no harm in making this information public.

Yes, I think everyone cops this. Makes you a "client for life", apparently. They do not charge this when/if you buy more properties through them. They will also try to get you to use their "preferred" lawyers for conveyancing and to manage the rental property as well. All signed up on the same day, before you fly home!  
If you have an existing mortgage it will probably be refinanced with a particular bank and your investment loan could be spread between more than one lender.
So they make money from the fee, no doubt from the commission paid by the developer for the land-house package or whatever it is, from managing the new rental property and the commissions on the new and, possibly, refinanced loans. And the plan is that you come back to buy more.
They have expanded into Melbourne after doing quite well in Brisbane. Have an idea they concentrate on Melbourne's outer suburbs, where house and land packages are plentiful. They have probably been priced out of Brisbane in some regards.
Read between the lines ...
Hope this helps.


June 19, 2008 - 1:29am

Joined: 04/04/2008

I would put my A$5000 into my mortgage...NOT in their pocket.

"Preferred Lawyers"... hm... sound interesting... I would get my own INDEPENDANT Lawyer to save my hard-earned $$$$$
"Client for life" = Blood sucker for life


June 19, 2008 - 5:36pm

Joined: 10/02/2008

god_of_money wrote:

I would put my A$5000 into my mortgage...NOT in their pocket.

"Preferred Lawyers"... hm... sound interesting... I would get my own INDEPENDANT Lawyer to save my hard-earned $$$$$
"Client for life" = Blood sucker for life 

I was just trying to say it a tad more subtly


June 26, 2008 - 4:26pm

Joined: 25/06/2008

Hi there, In regards to Premium Finance did the trip to Brisbane to head office not really knowing much about property investing.
Was going to invest my money in managed funds and super originaly, After the meeting wich was very informative ( took a while to get my head around it!) headed back home to think things over. After inquiring with estate agents and getting values of properties mentioned called back to agree to let them set up my finances to invest. They were very helpfull and informative through the whole process and have even helped me with financing properties in my home state as well. I paid the client for life fee as they stated that I would be able to use their help for financing property elsewhere. To my knowledge they make their money through developers commissions.


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